This is a discussion on $10 NLHE 6-max: 10NL 6max zoom - call turn shove with top two pair? within the online poker forums, in the Cash Game Hand Analysis section; Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 21/17/2
Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 max Zoom
Hero (BTN): $23.40
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN
Turn: ($8.72) 7d (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB raises to $16.05 all in, Hero ?
River: ($40.82) 7h (2 players - 1 is all in)
Should I call this shove? Against a range of JJ+ and AK Pokerstove reckons I'm a 63% favourite (which surprised me!), though can I narrow his range down further? Would he play AA or AK this way? Maybe he might if he has the Ace of diamonds.
Anyhow, what do people think? :-)
(PS I don't have any meaningful stats on the villain)
(PPS I probably should've folded preflop, but had position and decided to call in case he was squeezing light).
27th June 2015, 8:24 PM
How many hands is the 21/17/2 over? Do you have a 3-bet percentage?
This is pretty gross, being 200 bb's deep. Your hand is also pretty under-repped, as a hand that call/calls preflop is usually going to be pretty weak. With the flush draw coming in I think I call it off. But it's likely one of those gross situations where it doesn't matter much what you do because it's close (and therefore likely neutral EV).
I also want an to raise the flop, but I'm hungry and haven't had coffee yet, so I'm gonna abstain from arguing that. :P
28th June 2015, 5:39 AM
Online Poker at: PokerStars
Game: No Limit
I think the potential flush induces me into calling this, it's pretty close though.
28th June 2015, 6:00 AM
You shall fold preflop.
As you have called, I can see barely few flops better than this. Call.
28th June 2015, 11:32 AM
Online Poker at: fulltilt
re: Poker & $10 NLHE 6-max: 10NL 6max zoom - call turn shove with top two pair?
Agree, should have fold preflop.
Postflop, personally its all force moves.
28th June 2015, 4:24 PM
Poker at: Pokerstars
Thanks for the opinions guys. Yeah, as I said, I probably should've folded preflop. I called his shove and he turned over QQ - I didn't think it about long enough, if I had I might have found a fold. Not sure how many sensible players would have shoved with AA or AK in that spot (though I guess that's the point - it's microstakes and a lot players aren't sensible! - though whether that's enough grounds to justify calling, particularly when I don't have any evidence that villain is particularly fishy, is debatable).
@ c9h13no3 The stats I had were only based on 30 hands and tbh I can't remember his 3bet %, though I don't think it was high.