10$NL 6max: Interpret this donk's line.

Hero is at seat 0 with $10.01.
star-13 is at seat 3 with $9.22.
The button is at seat 3.

decebal posts the small blind of $.05.
Vicao posts the big blind of $.10.

Hero:

Pre-flop:

Hero raises to $.30. Kronke folds. tburdette87
folds. star-13 re-raises to $.50. decebal folds.
Vicao folds. Hero calls.

Flop (board: ):

Hero checks. star-13 bets $.10. Hero calls.

Turn (board: ):

Hero checks. star-13 bets $.10. Hero calls.

River (board: ):

Hero checks. star-13 bets $1.55.

For those of you that haven't played micro stakes in a while, what is this guy doing this with?

Could be anything really since you haven't shown stats. But maybe a hand like AK? Reraises min coz he has no f'n clue how to play preflop, then bets min coz he missed and has no f'n clue how to play after the flop and then hits his hand on river and has an organism? You can only really be ahead of a total complete donk here regardless.

Anyways, no offense, but if you aren't going to give stats/reads how can you expect any sort of decent answer here? It is a completely random line from a completely unknown player.

But your hand still only beats made hands that have turned into awfully constructed bluffs presuming villain doesn't min reraise with a wide range.

feitr said:

It is a completely random line from a completely unknown player.

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See, that's where you're wrong. I see this so often at micro limits, and almost 90% of the time it means the same thing.

Oh, and up until very recently (3 hours ago) I played without HUD stats, so I have no clue what they are.

not gonna try to guess villains hand but why not try to attack weakness on flop or turn? check raise 1 time ?

joos said:

not gonna try to guess villains hand but why not try to attack weakness on flop or turn? check raise 1 time ?

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Yeah, I usually raise these min-bets up. But I had been abusing this guy a lot, so I kinda wanted to go easy on him for a flop. Can't just beat them senseless with bets all the time

Sooooo... his line's been min-raise, minbet, minbet, pot bet?

I'm thinking this is probably AA or KK?

Not a lot else explains the minraise before the flop, and on the flop and turn they've been betting small because they're desperately scared that they'll lose their action.

Catch is though, one we beat and one we don't...

KJ, a very poor attempt of slow-playing a bad hand on the flop and turn, then sh*t himself when he saw the ace on the river and tried to scare you away from the hand? Im really nor sure though

Easy fold imo, you only beat pocket kings of his 3 betting range. This looks most likely set of jacks or set of aces, but his exact hand is irrelevant as you are crushed by his range imo

IMO

I think if I had stats on him that indicated he was a nit, you are probably beat.

However, at those limits, Ax could make sense in general. They either min bet with monsters, or they do it when weak. I've seen both. The min raises post flop could be pathetic bluff attempts with over cards.

Unless I had a decent history on him, I would probably fold this. You are crushed by his range like others have already mentioned.

no idea. I've seen it done w/ AA/KK, middle pocket pairs, 2 face cards and 72o. Can't say that I have seen a pattern for it where the opponent had any of those hands a majority of the time.

c9h13no3 said:

See, that's where you're wrong. I see this so often at micro limits, and almost 90% of the time it means the same thing.

Oh, and up until very recently (3 hours ago) I played without HUD stats, so I have no clue what they are.

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So what on earth is the point of the post then?

feitr said:

So what on earth is the point of the post then?

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The point of the post is that this line is soooo common among donkeys. You'll encounter so many opponents at these micro levels that will just min-bet flops like this all the time. And these are the exact players we want to exploit!

In my opinion, backed up by the experiance of playing micro-limits a while, 95% of the time this is weakness. Its even weaker than a check, because check/raises happen more often than min-bet/raises. Once in a while you'll have a tricky villain who will min-bet and hope you raise, but its almost always weakness at 10$ No Limit and below.

IMO, it was pretty obvious in this hand that villain had AK (which are the cards he had). Idiots min-raise AK preflop, because they think its a good hand, but they don't want to commit chips when they might miss the flop. And then they don't have the balls to actually c-bet, so they just flip a big blind out there, and hope I'll fold.

And this min-bet is just them showing how defensive they are. The reason I didn't raise this min-bet is for 2 reasons (other than the one previously stated):

1) I doubt villain could fold AK here until the river, he's that bad.
2) On the turn, if I hit a king, I'm probably taking his whole stack.

So yeah. Moral of this story is that microstakes retards are predictable. They bet next to nothing when they have nothing, and the bet HUGE when they actually hit a hand. Don't call big bets from idiots.

I folded FWIW, and villain showed me his cards.

Btw, nice guess feitr.

I didn't see this is in time to guess, but it was either going to be JJ or AK. Yes, I see this line for top set too, nice huh? Either way a King river was getting paid. Oh, and I see the minbet hoping for a raise quite often. I wouldn't put that in the "tricky villain" category. They usually reraise right back, so for them I make a note that minbets mean they want me to draw out on their big hands.