$1/2 FLHE 6-max: Overpair laydown--Standard?

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$1/2 FL HE 6-max: Overpair laydown--Standard?

Full Tilt, $1/$2 Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (MP): $61 (61 bb)
CO: $108 (108 bb)
BTN: $41.25 (41.3 bb)
SB: $132.25 (132.3 bb)
BB: $13 (13 bb)
UTG: $90 (90 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP with T
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T
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UTG folds, Hero raises, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls

Flop: ($6.50) 4
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5
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9
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(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, BB calls

Turn: ($9.50) 6
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(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, BB 3-bets, Hero folds

No real info on villains. Though, BB is certainly a horrible player (he was like 100/30/4.8 over 30 hands), and I'd seen CO raise/fold sometimes already.

My reasoning for folding though is that A lot of draws just came in and more were created and I have virtually no chance of improving on the river (~5%)

Standard?
 
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Its hard to tell since you didn't show how much each person raised. It be hard to put BB in 7-8 with a raise and call before him. I still think the fold was good though. You bet post turn then you have two raises, so my guess is someone has KK or AA, or maybe a draw. I think folding was the right move.
 
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delfam said:
Its hard to tell since you didn't show how much each person raised. It be hard to put BB in 7-8 with a raise and call before him. I still think the fold was good though. You bet post turn then you have two raises, so my guess is someone has KK or AA, or maybe a draw. I think folding was the right move.
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It's limit, so they raised SB/BB depending on the street.

SB PF/Flop
BB/Turn
 
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Completely, undeniably standard. Call here only if you do not like money.
 
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You should consider that someone here got three of a kind with small pocket pair.
 
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With the description of BB you supplied, I think this is a call. His range sounds like it could be almost any nine and a slew of other weird hands that he just randomly decided to raise the turn with.

If his range is tight for check/3-betting the turn, then it's an easy fold. I don't think it's quite that easy when he's a maniac.

If you call and CO caps, you're obviously in trouble. Probably call anyway and try to see a showdown as cheaply as possible. If BB leads river, call, if CO raises after you call, give up. He's never bluffing and he's not going to have weaker hands in his range if he caps the turn and raises the river.
 
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F Paulsson said:
With the description of BB you supplied, I think this is a call. His range sounds like it could be almost any nine and a slew of other weird hands that he just randomly decided to raise the turn with.

If his range is tight for check/3-betting the turn, then it's an easy fold. I don't think it's quite that easy when he's a maniac.

If you call and CO caps, you're obviously in trouble. Probably call anyway and try to see a showdown as cheaply as possible. If BB leads river, call, if CO raises after you call, give up. He's never bluffing and he's not going to have weaker hands in his range if he caps the turn and raises the river.
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+1 Note that BB is short-stacked and only has 2 more big bets after his 3 bet on the turn.

What draws just came in that we are worried about? 87? 32 and 73 should not be in anyone's range so I don't see how the turn is that relevant. However, do note that the CO raise is stronger than in heads up because there is another person in the pot though this could simply be a pair thinking you missed the board. As has been stated, if CO caps the turn, we are in trouble. Also, I'm a little more inclined to call the river if the board pairs, especially because we never have to call more than two big bets.
 
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I call, depends alot on the players but if the play SC they can have alot one pair plus draw hands.
 
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Sorry guys I haven't seen that this is a limit holdem.I think it is a good fold be cause it is easy to play conectors in limit holdem.There is no danger of somebody who will go all in to protect his top pair or overpair.
 
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Haha, as a original FL player myself, I really like FL posts. I will fold this on the turn, you need to put 2 for BB in you are mostly crashed by at least one of them with little chance to improve, its not worth it in this instance also.
 
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