$.05/.10 FLHE 6-max: I butchered this hand, right?

Played this hand, probably wrong on every street, but really need help after not playing limit for years. Am I 3-betting PF? Raising flop? Is the raise on the turn wrong? (I know its quads, but it's really not a thinly-veiled brag)

Postflop this is fine. Preflop, you should be re-raising this. Standard hand-chart play. You don't want this to become a multiway pot, and you'd like the initiative. Chart found here.

Also, postflop there really isn't a decision that affects your win rate that much. The fact that you posted this hand illustrates to me that you don't realize what sorts of decisions increase your win-rate the most. Especially with FLHE, how you play your big hands doesn't really matter as much. Its the mundane decisions that matter more, as there are increasingly more of them. And while in NLHE your big hands result in the biggest pots, with FLHE all the pots are roughly the same size.

that chart is epic, thanks a lot for linking it.
yeah, postflop I pretty much play fit or fold, and Im right to chase nut draws/other draws right? And you're right, the mundane hands are the ones that have me thinking what do I do here? Will post some tricky ones but only just jumped back into limit.
Thanks c9

KerouacsDog said:

that chart is epic, thanks a lot for linking it.
yeah, postflop I pretty much play fit or fold, and Im right to chase nut draws/other draws right? And you're right, the mundane hands are the ones that have me thinking what do I do here? Will post some tricky ones but only just jumped back into limit.
Thanks c9

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Depends on the draw & the potsize. But in general, you should be looking for reasons not to fold the flop against c-bets. If you're folding more than 25% or so, you're pretty exploitable.

Post the more mundane stuff. Post hands like:

1) Where you flop air.
2) Where you flop middle/bottom pair.
3) Where you flop a gutshot.

Playing limit, you're going to flop those types of hands a lot. And how you play those hands will contribute to your win-rate more than how you play flopping the nuts.

c9h13no3 said:

Depends on the draw & the potsize. But in general, you should be looking for reasons not to fold the flop against c-bets. If you're folding more than 25% or so, you're pretty exploitable.

Post the more mundane stuff. Post hands like:

1) Where you flop air.
2) Where you flop middle/bottom pair.
3) Where you flop a gutshot.

Playing limit, you're going to flop those types of hands a lot. And how you play those hands will contribute to your win-rate more than how you play flopping the nuts.

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ok, cool, will do. will play a session tomorrow when I have more time/am more awake and see what hands I can post. thanks again c9.

I'd cap preflop, but I cap everything I play preflop cuz I like to click buttons. C9 will confirm this.

yeah wasnt sure about this preflop. Limit is such a different monster to NL.

Raise pre to get the utg raiser to better define his hand (will also help in future hands), the blinds to fold and get it heads up. After that, basically there's no wrong way to play the nuts in LHE, but I probably wouldn't have raised the turn... raise the flop when the bet is much smaller to call. He can't really call you with much when you bet/raise the turn, unless the pot's getting large enough for him to make some marginal pot odds justified decisions.

Of course, after you raise pre, you're looking more at a check/call from the villain, which is good because you could still have anything and your turn bet will still get called a lot, or you could check and hope for a thin value bet or a bluff from him on the river (though i'm probably just bet, bet, betting).

I always thought it was best to play NL 6-max and LHE full ring... but maybe some others with more ring game grinding experience can answer that a little better without hijacking the thread too much.

c9h13no3 said:

Postflop this is fine. Preflop, you should be re-raising this. Standard hand-chart play. You don't want this to become a multiway pot, and you'd like the initiative. Chart found here.

Also, postflop there really isn't a decision that affects your win rate that much. The fact that you posted this hand illustrates to me that you don't realize what sorts of decisions increase your win-rate the most. Especially with FLHE, how you play your big hands doesn't really matter as much. Its the mundane decisions that matter more, as there are increasingly more of them. And while in NLHE your big hands result in the biggest pots, with FLHE all the pots are roughly the same size.

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Hi was wondering on your chart what,LA,L2-3 mean?

2pearAAKK said:

Hi was wondering on your chart what,LA,L2-3 mean?

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1) I posted that just to be a guide to the blind. It's by no means locked in stone, and some may argue parts of it are even wrong. Keep in mind it's a chart for limit.

2) LA means "limp along", so if there are other limpers in the pot, you can limp in as well according to the chart.

c9h13no3 said:

1) I posted that just to be a guide to the blind. It's by no means locked in stone, and some may argue parts of it are even wrong. Keep in mind it's a chart for limit.

2) LA means "limp along", so if there are other limpers in the pot, you can limp in as well according to the chart.

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thanks friend

c9h13no3 said:

Postflop this is fine. Preflop, you should be re-raising this. Standard hand-chart play. You don't want this to become a multiway pot, and you'd like the initiative. Chart found here.

Also, postflop there really isn't a decision that affects your win rate that much. The fact that you posted this hand illustrates to me that you don't realize what sorts of decisions increase your win-rate the most. Especially with FLHE, how you play your big hands doesn't really matter as much. Its the mundane decisions that matter more, as there are increasingly more of them. And while in NLHE your big hands result in the biggest pots, with FLHE all the pots are roughly the same size.

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what does CAP and LA mean in that chart?

nice chart btw

Raibik13 said:

what does CAP and LA mean in that chart?

nice chart btw

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c9h13no3 said:

2) LA means "limp along", so if there are other limpers in the pot, you can limp in as well according to the chart.

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CAP means to cap the betting (typically it means to raise 3 times).