0.50/1.00 LHE hand

0.50/1.00 LHE hand: getting maximum value

Did i play the river properly?
i was obviously trying to put in a checkraise, hoping someone had made their straight
but instead lost a few extra bets i could have made
what do you think? would you have check-raised or lead out?

EDIT: I don't have great reads on the players, but oldhonestjoe and thecastlefordkid are fairly tight-passive
acer3 is kind of loose-passive
and konyali is a real fish

You checked into passive players on the river with quads?

Err, it should be obvious this isn't particularly smart.

yes but i'm a tard

i thought maybe one of them had made a straight...but then again he would have capped the flop - but sometimes these tards will slowplay hands

Yeah, they were playing the pot odds the whole way through. If anyone had the straight they would/should have reraised before the river. AK was scared of the straight from the flop, and AJ just figured he was outkicked. You should have bet about 1/3 to 1/2 the pot. One or both would have called just to see. BTW, AK was a tard. He really should have raised more on the flop. I think you let these guys off easy Chuck.

Four Dogs said:

...and AJ just figured he was outkicked. You should have bet about 1/3 to 1/2 the pot. One or both would have called just to see. BTW, AK was a tard. He really should have raised more on the flop. I think you let these guys off easy Chuck.

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some minor corrections: the guy had A7, not AJ and this is a Limit cash game, not NL
oh yeah and just an FYI i was UTG

Sorry, I meant A7. And I missed the limit part. That changes everything.I keep forgetting that some of us play other games besides NLH. Limit is F Paulsons expertise.

well i think dorkus hit the nail on the head...i don't know why i didnt lead out on the river
i think i just hoped that they had a hand and i could slip in a checkraise...oh well still learning

If you had checked on the turn, that would have been one thing, but now you bet the turn and then checked on the river. They were looking to show down their pair of aces as cheaply as possible, and you let them get what they wanted, unfortunately.

Here's a rule of thumb: If your opponent will call with more hands then he will bet with, betting is usually right if you think you have the winning hand.

You have to bet your made hands on the river.
Your cutesy plays will cost you more money than you will make with them.

Think about it like this.
You checked hoping to checkraise.

If you successfully checkraised you would have made an extra $4 if both of them came along.

In this instance you made $0. (extra on the river).

Do you see how these missed bets will add up in the long run?
This is a big leak in alot of players games.

It is called Fancy-Play Syndrome.
Start betting for value.

***Especially at LowLimits ******

I think you should have made at least a minimum bet on the river. If they just call at least you got more chips out of them. You want to bet something you think they would call. If they both fold at least you tried. You would end up with the same amount of chips as you checked.

As much as you want to get a check raise in, I don't think that the AK would have bet on the river considering his call on the turn. On the flop he made a stab at the pot even though there was a possible straight. When you reraised he got the information he needed and backed off. It's hard to say whether the hand broke down on the flop or not. If you have only called his bet you might have been able check all the turn and would have likely got that last bet on the river. However, you would have a hard time knowing what the other person had since you didn't fire back on the flop or turn. The straight might have been out there and you have no info to make a decision on whether it was or not. I would say the preflop raise was probably needed.

However we are talking the river play. Not the rest of the hand. I think you have to bet here due to the weakness that the other players were showing. Maybe the don't call. You didn't win any more chips if the don't. You don't win anymore if you checked either.

Playing limit you have to bet on the river if you have a decent hand. After only calling your bet on the turn, you knew they weren't going to be aggressive, so you have to be aggressive if you want to get any decent size pot. You could have then hoped for a raise from one of them so you could max out the hand. When you have the nuts, ALWAYS bet on the river.