Originally Posted by robwhufc
Here, like TB i'd narrow his opponents cards down to just AK and AQ. You're beat (or at least well behind) with AQ, pot odds are low, and your liability is much greater ($56.85). I'd call - he's made it cheap for you to stay in the hand and see what he does next, I dont think he'll fold to an all-in, so by calling you're giving yourself an extra opportunity to get out if you really dont like the look of the board.
I don´t see your point on just calling here. You said that if i push he won´t fold, so if he has AK i have to take advantage of it and put all my money on the pot when i´m the big favourite.
If i just call i´m only going to fold on the turn if a K or Q comes. If a K comes, he bets and i fold, then why didn´t i pushed on the flop if i thought he had AK? And if a Q comes, then i´m either counterfeited or against a full house. If my 6s were counterfeited by his kicker, then i face the same dilemma as before: Why not push if if think i´m big favourite and he is going to call? But if he made the full house, why not folding on the flop if i´m going to fold in the turn anyway? Now if i call and a rag comes in the turn, most likely he will make a big bet if he holds AK or AQ, and how will i know which of those hands does he has?
There is one point which i agree with Rob and disagree with Tammy and FD: His minraise seems to be a sign of real strength. He could be doing that with top two pair. If he has a good hand, probably he won´t try to make me to fold by making a huge raise, instead he will try to induce me to call making a little raise.
It´s something similar to playing AA and JJ preflop: Most players will make big raises with JJ because they don´t want to be called by face cards that can hit in the flop, but if they have AA or KK they´ll make lower raises to try to get some callers and make more money.
Of course what i said doesn´t applies for every player and every situation, because each player have his own betting patterns and maybe this player would reraise more if he had two pair. Another fact to consider in this minraise situation is that maybe TPTK means a really strength hand to him and he will play it as if he has the nuts (actually if we stop to think for a while, we can realize that if he has AK, his hand is similar to mine at "NLHE ring table hand", where most of us thought that pushing was right).
Originally Posted by ChuckTs
maybe hes got a RF draw
many many outs for that
This is a point i wanted to touch and compare with my first thread.
On the first hand, i think my push was wrong because if he had a draw it was most likely a coinflip. I had a vulnerable pair that could be easily beaten by a set or even a draw (with an overcard). There were few possible hands that i could beat by a good advantage, so i was going to be taking a race or being a big underdog. My overpair wasn´t worth the push.
But now this situation was different. There was only 1 hand where i could be a huge underdog, and something important i took in consideration in this hand was that any draw he would be playing would be welcomed. If he had any flush draw (even the RF one) i would have a very good advantage, so this was the time to make him pay if he had any draw or a strong A, even though i knew i was running the risk of being against AQ.
So i pushed...