re: Poker & You should never be a pathetic calling station.
Originally Posted by Kasanova King
I think he played the hand fine until the river. Calling an all in shove with BOTH flush and straight possibilities showing on the board is wreckless, not to mention he called it with 2nd pair! lol
I can understand that the guy made a correct read initially but by the river he needed to re address the situation and come to the realization that this was tournament poker, not a cash game and an all in river shove bluff for all your chips is an extreme rarity at that stage of the tournament. Even the craziest, looosest maniac in the world would have a difficult time making an all in river bluff for all his chips during a final table of a tournament.
Tell me if I'm being result-oriented and having a flawed poker mind but when I was a beginner, this is what happened, and decided to learn from it in this way.
I dont' know exact chipsizes but I'll tell you something similar like this happened. I was dealt pocket 6s. UTG raises. I called. Flop comes out 2 5 9 all rainbow. He bets out pot size. I wasn't sure if he's bluffing and just making c-bet, or if he actually has a 9 or overpair, or even a set. I called. Turn comes out 2. He bets out pot size again. I wasn't sure if he's betting out with two overcards, pair of 9s, overcards, etc. River comes out King. He shoves all-in which was half the pot. i called. He rolls over Ace King.
Beginner/Amateur would say "OMG, LUCKY DONK. HE GOT SO LUCKY ON THE RIVER"
But if I analyze this hand, was it his fault for bluffing or was it my fault for not being aggressive and not trusting my reads, allowing him to improve his hand? If I reraised, he would've folded and prevented this from happenign. From this point, I learned and figured the best thing to do was on the flop is to become confident and choose one or the other. Either reraise and make him fold if I think my opponent is bluffing, missed the flop, and is making c-bet. If I'm afraid or if I feel like I'm beat,based on hand history and opponent's past plays, because he might have overpair or a 9 based on his past play, right move is to fold and move on. If I make a misread, I face the consequence. There are more times I take down the pot than being a caling station and trying to win by a showdown. From this point, I decided, it's either bet or fold. I was studying some books and many pros said "bettors are winners, callers are losers". When I make continuation bets or play like elky sometimes but get lucky on the river, I hear many fishes calling me "omg, lucky donk". But is it my fault for attempting to bluff or was it his fault for not trusting his read and not betting me out, allowing me to improve my hand? I ended up posting this video because this video reminded me of major step I took to fix my old leak of not being a calling station.