Are You Afraid of Bad Beats?

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finaltable1 said:
Well, you're from Brasil, it explains everything. Seen the Olympics, heard about education, favellas and i def. love brasilain players at the tables.
No need to comment, just show how good you are by showing the world some of your recent games? Here is one of my recent games:


https://www.starswinningmoments.com...160_77s3vdh6ayuc4h9tx6h1_video.mp4&tid=126448


It's so nice to hear actually that people in Brasil can read books and choose which one they want to read... it's so great to know that you have a choice! I'll be praying for you and your choice. But keep in mind, that there are the good ones and the bad ones, also the alphabet book, the tiny book and the green one, the coca growth book and fawella survival book, the kill amazon forest book and the book with no sense! Hope that you'll be reading more of the right books in the future. Good luck at the Carnival my book loving friend. :2in1:
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Once again he proves that he does not know what he is talking about.
I see you're happy to only win $ 480!
I wish I could double that.


Not that I care about the country where I live or something related, but this has never influenced me and I live very well. So it is obvious that yours words only confirm their nature. ;)
 
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I’m not afraid at all, I just get discouraged when the math doesn’t go my way in key spots. Especially on ACR, where it seems to defy mathematical logic. LoL I know it’s variance but it’s horrible none the less. I’ve lost many key hands in the late stages that would’ve catapulted me to a high finish if AA or KK held.
 
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escurimX said:
I have is anger
because it always comes at crucial moments of the tournament
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Always happens to me in the worst spots as well. I know it’s a matter of time before we breakthrough though. Keep getting yourself in good spots and those good decisions will pay off.
 
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DiegoRamos said:
Once again he proves that he does not know what he is talking about.
I see you're happy to only win $ 480!
I wish I could double that.


Not that I care about the country where I live or something related, but this has never influenced me and I live very well. So it is obvious that yours words only confirm their nature. ;)
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You sound like you're talking to some third person about our conversation.
Yep you're right, i've only won 480 in that tourney, never said that i'm happy about it, more to say - i've started a thread at the forum and this topic is about how unhappy i am about it and what actually happened there. It's just a recent result, i've got many more of such videos and records of the final tables, my average ROI is +40% and over 3K tourneys played each year.


And from your posts, like "I've adjusted my bet size for QQ" This is not only just funny, this is SUCH A LOOOOL. Well hat's great actually that your head isn't good only for soccer, tv and chewing chips, i admire you for reading books LOL i bet you just read the first couple of pags of each book in order to say - "I got it, no sense in further reading, author is stupid, i'm a brasilian pro, i know everything"


here is something interesting for you to read:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framing_(social_sciences)
this article has Portuguese version.


and


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_tunnel


It's not a book, just two articles. You can use your... hmmm. your preferred method and read just first couple of words and ignore the rest of the article, or you can read it all or even write something there :stupido: I don't actually care anymore. I did my best to save the evolution process and now i'm gone.


That's all. Discussion is over.
 
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No, I'm not afraid of the bad bet. But in the last week you care about me. I continue to believe this bet will leave me. :);)
 
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They happen, but this just tilted me lol

pokerstars Hand #183421410566: Tournament #2236327572, $0.26+$0.01 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (40/80) - 2018/03/05 18:46:47 WET [2018/03/05 13:46:47 ET]
Table '2236327572 30' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: IMosin2013 (2997 in chips)
Seat 2: BigRedRooster (3527 in chips)
Seat 3: leozinhobre (2762 in chips)
Seat 4: marcorussolillo (6161 in chips)
Seat 5: seanage84 (2790 in chips)
Seat 6: jack_zico (2763 in chips)
IMosin2013: posts the ante 20
BigRedRooster: posts the ante 20
leozinhobre: posts the ante 20
marcorussolillo: posts the ante 20
seanage84: posts the ante 20
jack_zico: posts the ante 20
IMosin2013: posts small blind 40
BigRedRooster: posts big blind 80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BigRedRooster [6s As]
leozinhobre: folds
marcorussolillo: calls 80
seanage84: folds
jack_zico: folds
IMosin2013: calls 40
BigRedRooster: checks
*** FLOP *** [9s 3s 7h]
IMosin2013: checks
BigRedRooster: bets 400
marcorussolillo: calls 400
IMosin2013: folds
*** TURN *** [9s 3s 7h] [9d]
BigRedRooster: bets 160
marcorussolillo: calls 160
*** RIVER *** [9s 3s 7h 9d] [7s]
BigRedRooster: checks
marcorussolillo: bets 720
BigRedRooster: raises 2147 to 2867 and is all-in
marcorussolillo: calls 2147
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BigRedRooster: shows [6s As] (a flush, Ace high)
marcorussolillo: shows [7c Qh] (a full house, Sevens full of Nines)
marcorussolillo collected 7214 from pot
BigRedRooster finished the tournament
 
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Paying with premium hands is almost always guaranteed when few people enter a boat, if it is an all-in hand or maximum 3 people the chances of winning are very good, although if the tournament is of great importance he would think about it, More sure is that he pays the bet, but he would be somewhat nervous that he could be eliminated.
 
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No it is what happens to me 5 times an hour on ACR. Always lose on there even if you are at 80% after the flop.
 
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BigRedRooster said:
They happen, but this just tilted me lol

PokerStars Hand #183421410566: Tournament #2236327572, $0.26+$0.01 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (40/80) - 2018/03/05 18:46:47 WET [2018/03/05 13:46:47 ET]
Table '2236327572 30' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: IMosin2013 (2997 in chips)
Seat 2: BigRedRooster (3527 in chips)
Seat 3: leozinhobre (2762 in chips)
Seat 4: marcorussolillo (6161 in chips)
Seat 5: seanage84 (2790 in chips)
Seat 6: jack_zico (2763 in chips)
IMosin2013: posts the ante 20
BigRedRooster: posts the ante 20
leozinhobre: posts the ante 20
marcorussolillo: posts the ante 20
seanage84: posts the ante 20
jack_zico: posts the ante 20
IMosin2013: posts small blind 40
BigRedRooster: posts big blind 80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BigRedRooster [6s As]
leozinhobre: folds
marcorussolillo: calls 80
seanage84: folds
jack_zico: folds
IMosin2013: calls 40
BigRedRooster: checks
*** FLOP *** [9s 3s 7h]
IMosin2013: checks
BigRedRooster: bets 400
marcorussolillo: calls 400
IMosin2013: folds
*** TURN *** [9s 3s 7h] 9♦
BigRedRooster: bets 160
marcorussolillo: calls 160
*** RIVER *** [9s 3s 7h 9d] 7♠
BigRedRooster: checks
marcorussolillo: bets 720
BigRedRooster: raises 2147 to 2867 and is all-in
marcorussolillo: calls 2147
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BigRedRooster: shows [6s As] (a flush, Ace high)
marcorussolillo: shows [7c Qh] (a full house, Sevens full of Nines)
marcorussolillo collected 7214 from pot
BigRedRooster finished the tournament
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That is not a bad beat, that is a bad play. You should just call the river, maybe even fold.
 
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If you are afraid of taking a bad beat you don't know the math, nor do you understand variance.

Bad beats are a statistical anomaly, but happen. AA is not unbeatable pre-flop yet many players play AA like it's a lock to win hands. The truth is players tend to get blinded by "pretty" hands like AA or KK.


If you have your opponent drawing to two outs on the river, 1 out of 20 hands they will win ON AVERAGE. Key word - AVERAGE. Just because you should win 19 hands of 20 doesn't mean you will win 19 hands of 20. Over time, the statistics should level out to this, but looking and dwelling at one hand is absurd. It happens and if you are fearful of donkeys calling your all in with 72o and hitting a 2, you're playing scared. Let the donkeys play 72o - you'll win more often than not. But will you win 100% of the hands? Hell no.


Focus on making correct decisions when the odds are in your favour. Playing solid poker outweighs luck overtime. Don't get blinded by the one off bad beats. We all take them.
 
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DiegoRamos said:
It makes no sense to drop KK pre-flop. That does make you lose money.
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Why not, if some maniac is calling allins on whatever and hitting every time it is an easy fold, you obviously don't know anything about ACR donkey rewarding program then. Top 5 hands to you and me are rubbish on this site. Well for me anyway. Example, today I login, after 90 minutes, I have won 1 hand when in front. KK QQ AQ AK TT JJ all losers. So, I figure why not join the donkeys and shove utg on j10off for 50bigs, get called by tt and guess who wins......me of course as I had the worst hand.......welcome to ACR poker.
 
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I sometimes fold these cards, so I think that a person has a better position, sometimes helps, but most likely you are right. Analysis is most often on my side)
 
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CRStals said:
If you are afraid of taking a bad beat you don't know the math, nor do you understand variance.

Bad beats are a statistical anomaly, but happen. AA is not unbeatable pre-flop yet many players play AA like it's a lock to win hands. The truth is players tend to get blinded by "pretty" hands like AA or KK.


If you have your opponent drawing to two outs on the river, 1 out of 20 hands they will win ON AVERAGE. Key word - AVERAGE. Just because you should win 19 hands of 20 doesn't mean you will win 19 hands of 20. Over time, the statistics should level out to this, but looking and dwelling at one hand is absurd. It happens and if you are fearful of donkeys calling your all in with 72o and hitting a 2, you're playing scared. Let the donkeys play 72o - you'll win more often than not. But will you win 100% of the hands? Hell no.


Focus on making correct decisions when the odds are in your favour. Playing solid poker outweighs luck overtime. Don't get blinded by the one off bad beats. We all take them.
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Perfect. We have the same line of reasoning.
 
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MadMurkin said:
Why not, if some maniac is calling allins on whatever and hitting every time it is an easy fold, you obviously don't know anything about ACR donkey rewarding program then. Top 5 hands to you and me are rubbish on this site. Well for me anyway. Example, today I login, after 90 minutes, I have won 1 hand when in front. KK QQ AQ AK TT JJ all losers. So, I figure why not join the donkeys and shove utg on j10off for 50bigs, get called by tt and guess who wins......me of course as I had the worst hand.......welcome to ACR poker.
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I really do not know the ACR Donkey, but your theory is it leads you to error.
Bad Beat is part of the variance. Most of the time you will gain from these hands, soon profitable in the long run.
Think about it.
 
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ValentinBLR1 said:
I sometimes fold these cards, so I think that a person has a better position, sometimes helps, but most likely you are right. Analysis is most often on my side)
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If you are dropping AA and KK you are making a basic mistake. I recommend studying the math of the game that will analyze your situation better.
In fact this is correct, the position at the table will help a lot.
 
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DiegoRamos said:
If you are dropping AA and KK you are making a basic mistake. I recommend studying the math of the game that will analyze your situation better.
In fact this is correct, the position at the table will help a lot.
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thanks for the advice. Good luck in the vastness of poker:bike:
 
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there is no not fear, dispersion the case.
 
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I have been the butt end of losing pocket AA's or poket KK's and it dosen't seem fair to lose to an all in hand like 7 2.
Sometime poker just isn't fair, good luck at the tables.
 
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Nah, Ive just come to accept them. Dont let the beats thought effect your play. Get your KK in there good and lose properly.. LOL!
 
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Don't get me wrong, I play KK and AA to the $%^& hilt when not on ACR. They are just not good hands on that site.

Shown again today after 1 hour, I am chip leader, within 5 minutes I am out after a USA donkey as per normal arrives as a late entry at the table, plays like a super fish and shoves on wateva everyhand and wins every single one of them as normal for a late entry on ACR.
I get dealt KK, knew he would call so i shove, yer he calls on 67 and guess who won? Wasn't me and I was down to last place. Welcome to ACR.
 
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DiegoRamos said:
This should never happen, regardless of how many players are all in.
Math is on your side, and for you who are starting now and still do not know, Poker is math and analysis of people, nothing more.
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You're wrong. AA is a good hand against one opponent. Against three is not very good. Hoping only for math you will not earn much, but it will help you to calm your mind after another loss:D. Poker is a calculation plus luck, without luck you can not do.
 
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Bad beats are just part of the game. If you're playing a sound strategy and practicing good bankroll management, you'll be able to withstand the variance and will have nothing to fear.
 
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