Merlin333
Rock Star
Silver Level
NAMECALLERS - THINK ABOUT IT....
Last evening yet another losing player started calling the guy who busted him (not me this time) a "donkey". His statement "how could you call me with
" was a statement that frequently betrays the utter stupidity, the oppressive need to sound "expert" to hide your loss and utter lack of knowledge of the game most name callers have. (The whiner put in a minimum raise UTG, the 55 guy called - the flop
JJ guy goes all in 55 guy calls - the turn
river
note the JJ guy could have easily gotten busted with a Q or overpair)
I must say first I AM NO EXPERT but I am a student of the game and have come to know a few simple, obvious things :
in the final event at Bellagio in 2003 and winning the championship with "trash pocket hands" in 1976 with
: and 1977 with
said this:This is a capacity good pros have most amateurs don't - TO PLAY WITH NOTHING FOR REASONS OTHER THAN YOUR HAND. In non-professional games, you are also more likely to find players in a pot who chase and hit where a pro would have folded streets earlier.
One key indicator whining players of this particular low level betray is that most times their "whining about getting caught" mentions only their hand versus the busting hand. There is often little mention about preceding play, players tendencies. their table image, how many are seated at the the table, level in the tournament, stack & table position, ante/blinds or any of those "unimportant, inconvenient contributing facts/factors" that contributed to the demise.
So the next time you call someone a "donkey" think first - are you showing how little YOU really know about the game? At least consider that if you find yourself in this position a LOT (whining in the losers lounge) maybe you need to learn something...
OK I gotta admit I get more than a little perturbed by people copying "TV Code words" - it's weak make up your own stuff or at least use the words per their definition - so sue me... LOL
JonHolt(Merlin333)
p.s. If I had a nickel for everytime Jacks busted me, I'd have more money than Bill Gates -
p.s. I know I didn't bleep the word d**key this time..... what can I say
Last evening yet another losing player started calling the guy who busted him (not me this time) a "donkey". His statement "how could you call me with
I must say first I AM NO EXPERT but I am a student of the game and have come to know a few simple, obvious things :
- Don't slowplay jacks early, particularly online, particularly early
- Your table can't see your Jacks and Jacks are not a "lock hand"
- There are MANY opportunities to get your jacks busted from a variety of ways and its not just from others holding AA, KK,QQ either
- Only rookies play only the strength of their hand and expect everyone else to fold and LET them win a pot
- Whatever you do, whatever your skill level "putting someone on a hand" is a guess (decision based on incomplete information) sometimes you're wrong sometimes you're right. The higher your skill level and familiarity with your competition the more often you are right - making a wrong decision does not make you a donkey. It happens to every poker player every day regardless of skill level.
"Today's tournaments are structured to be a lot faster.... You've got to play almost every hand when you're anteing high" At the very least you've got to see the flop. It's not at all surprising I won the 1976 and the 1977 World Championship with trash hands"
"...... I'd rarely play those hands. There's little reason when the ante doesn't force you to play. A major exception is when I play a pot for the sole reason of trying to steal it Then it doesn't matter what I have. I mean I could be playing the hand without even looking at my hole cards. At such time, I'd be playing my money, my position and a particular player. My hand wouldn't matter. If I was forced to look at it because I got played with, I might find two Aces, A-K or trash.... I hadn't made a pair all day, and I'd had to stay alive by stealing some pots, but on this particular play (referring to 2003), my read was wrong.
"...... I'd rarely play those hands. There's little reason when the ante doesn't force you to play. A major exception is when I play a pot for the sole reason of trying to steal it Then it doesn't matter what I have. I mean I could be playing the hand without even looking at my hole cards. At such time, I'd be playing my money, my position and a particular player. My hand wouldn't matter. If I was forced to look at it because I got played with, I might find two Aces, A-K or trash.... I hadn't made a pair all day, and I'd had to stay alive by stealing some pots, but on this particular play (referring to 2003), my read was wrong.
One key indicator whining players of this particular low level betray is that most times their "whining about getting caught" mentions only their hand versus the busting hand. There is often little mention about preceding play, players tendencies. their table image, how many are seated at the the table, level in the tournament, stack & table position, ante/blinds or any of those "unimportant, inconvenient contributing facts/factors" that contributed to the demise.
So the next time you call someone a "donkey" think first - are you showing how little YOU really know about the game? At least consider that if you find yourself in this position a LOT (whining in the losers lounge) maybe you need to learn something...
OK I gotta admit I get more than a little perturbed by people copying "TV Code words" - it's weak make up your own stuff or at least use the words per their definition - so sue me... LOL
JonHolt(Merlin333)
p.s. If I had a nickel for everytime Jacks busted me, I'd have more money than Bill Gates -
p.s. I know I didn't bleep the word d**key this time..... what can I say
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