Where do your profits come from? Bad players?

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Is making money in poker (mainly cash) about preying on very weak players? I find I only make large amounts from maniacs or calling station. While on tight tables, it's pretty hard to earn a much or stray from losing money. I'm still new, but do many of you just make money off maniacs and calling stations, or make small profits from solid players that simply add up?
 
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fish = $$$$$.
on a cash table if there's no fish there's really no point in being there imo, having a definite edge is what makes poker worth playing.
 
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Yeah, fish earn you the dosh on cash tables :)

But still need to be wary,even they get lucky, sometimes.
 
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Yeah most of the profits come from bad players. Even just one complete fish on a table can make it worthwhile to sit down.
 
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I find that I make most profits when playing in the early hours of the morning over a weekend when everyone has come back from their "jol" (a SA word for a night on the town) and had too much to drink and all the cards look great to them.
 
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I try to play with weak players as much as possible. I agree with dropdead1. There are certain times of the day when play in certain games. Friday and saturday night are great.
 
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Some of my biggest profits come from the players who, at first glance, seem to not be fish. They have the basic stats of a tight-aggressive player, but they simply cannot fold a big hand. They'll gladly stack off with QQ on a K-high board, or call an all-in on the river after their AA has been drawn out on. And about 50% of these players feel the need to slowplay every single hand. These players are almost as good to have at the table as ATMs.

I know because at times I've been this player, and it's more costly than being a calling station.
 
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i also talked about this on another thread, but I'll make a slight change.

The perfect combination of a 6-handed cash table is one aggro donk to your right- one nit to his right- two fish in the middle- and one nit to your left.

how can this get any better, u steal everything while nits steal nothing and you get all the juicy pots from the lovely aggro donk and the fish.
 
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It really just depends on how good you are. If you're a great player, you don't need fish at the table, just a player or two who is merely good. If you're a good player, than you need a player or two who is merely decent. Of course, I suppose to the great players, the good players are fish.

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i would like to resond to this tonight cause it just happened recently, i had a/a vs a/k offsuit, same thing as always river a 10, and for all those that play online you know what the flop and turn was, flop had a q, turn was a j, lol, sucks, but they say go on, but sometimes it still SUCKS
 
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Yes, basically the money comes from bad players. I say the the more bad players at the table the better. If you are at a table with very tight players or good aggressive players you can have a tough time. Fish is where the money is at!
 
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:deal: In my opinion of playing online your profits are hardly comming from bad players because the are so busy sucking out on you for that to be the case. The profits come mainly from luck, but not the luck you think of initally but a different luck. The luck im talking about is the luck that others have a great hand aswell but just not better than yours. Thats the only way to truly make a profit in poker.

fish = $$$$$.
on a cash table if there's no fish there's really no point in being there imo, having a definite edge is what makes poker worth playing.

This guy is crazy there are fish at every cash table, every limit. You are out of your mind if you think its not. There are many reasons why people are playing cash and just because they are there dosent mean they are good players. You will be able to weed out the weak from the strong in any game. Seriously man where do you play?:eek:
 
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yeah defiently from bad players..most of my profit will come from the $2 heads up shootouts that are daily..
 
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This guy is crazy there are fish at every cash table, every limit. You are out of your mind if you think its not. There are many reasons why people are playing cash and just because they are there dosent mean they are good players. You will be able to weed out the weak from the strong in any game. Seriously man where do you play?:eek:

I play 25NL at Stars, 9 tables.
What I'm looking for in a fish is someone with a VPIP over 30, and a low PFR stat. There may very well be disguised fish that have normal stats, but for the fish I'm looking for, there's not one at every table. Most though.
 
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My profits come primarily from cheating. I've developed a program with which I can deal any board card of my choice as long as they've not already been dealt.
 
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I'm surprised there'd stil be donk's in the higher stakes. I would think everybody would be good up there. But guess skill would be relative. Are there stil donks at $25/50?
 
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I'm surprised there'd stil be donk's in the higher stakes. I would think everybody would be good up there. But guess skill would be relative. Are there stil donks at $25/50?

There are still donkeys at the higher stakes, but the more you move up, the fewer donkeys you will find. Table selection becomes more & more important :)

Also, the high stakes donkey tends to be mostly the agressive donkey, while at lower stakes, you are more likely to find lots of passive donkeys, calling stations & sheep.
 
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I opinion should be the same as far as the general outcome of pots with most players online. Being that the bigger the stakes, the more money to win, also, the big wins come from big hands. Donks do their thing every once in awhile but they are not as consistant as the typical play.
 
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Of course i agree with playing against weak players. But I need to work on my play against maniacs, because at times it is very hard to put them on a hand and often it becomes more of a gamble. So usually I try to avoid them.
 
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