what stakes does abc become not as profitable?

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wyd123

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i have a br of $500 and over my first few weeks (started 1/1) have been more or less treading water at the 1/2 stt's my 9max and DoN's are most profitable so far....my cash game has been crap from the start...i dropped 20 bucks my first day at my first table and have been recovering that at the micros since...SLOWLY.

i'd like to stab at the 5$ STT area (at FT) but cant to bring myself to do it while in the red....but isn't that what my br is for? to dip into? otherwise why not start with a $20 deposit and work up from there? this at first seems like a justification to jump up while more/less losing at current stakes, which i understand is not a winning strategy.

i'm an absolute beginner in real money (been playing avg 3-5 hours/day for a year on the other side =p) read a few books and have been lurking here the whole time...this is my stab at online poker, i can afford to lose it all, and not try again for years. but i'd rather not =) i've bought and have holdem 'manager up and running quite well, with a good HUD that i like.

as far as MTT's go, i've placed in the top 100 in the Ferguson $1 (1,700)
twice but from what i understand MTT's are NOT good for playing on any kind of regular basis to build bankroll (or am i mistaken here?) so i've decided to play it once a week(ish) basically throw a dollar at a lotto ticket. 18+27 player have all (4) missed the money...and i've yet to try a 90 or 180. i am quite comfortable at MTT's as i play ALOT of freerolls the past year, made the money 3 times, and threw every penny into one game! lol i understood what i was doing, but i knew i was gonna throw 500 in before newyears. and was hoping to catch a hot streak for fun. didn't work. go figure =) that was my time at poker U.

i can multi-table two at once but not much past that as far as comfort levels go. i can do 4 in "robot" mode, but enjoy the game much more when i can focus on every hand.

if any of yall wanna point me in the right direction as far as game/stake selection that'd be great, also any other bits o knowledge you wanna add would be greatly appreciated...i'm a bit "new" here but plan on makin' somethin' with this money...so i'll be more active here these days.

i'd be happy to post my screen name if y'all wanna look me up, but only if that's necessary to answer my question.

thanks in advance

wyd
 
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MTTs are not good for building bankroll because it's normal not to cash in 80%+ of the tourneys and your bankroll will drop a lot after 20+ tourneys without getting in the money.

Cash games are harder than SNG and I'd recommend to play 9 man 1 table tourneys for $2 to get used to the play. The opponents at $5 are with the same skill, but first you should have the confidence that you can beat them. Play 20 or 30 $2 9 man SNG and if you are profitable - you can safely go to $5 SNG because you have the bankroll and the skills.

I prefer 6max SNG and Heads-up matches because the less opponents you have - the lower is the variance. It's that simple - if you are better than another player - you will win almost every time when playing 1 vs 1. However, heads-up play is really hard and it's not for newbies.

You have the bankroll to play at the 10/25c games , but I'd recommend to go with 5/10c cash games because you have to beat the penny tables before going to 10/25c where you will find many very good players.

If you can manage to win more than $100-$150 for a month at the 5/10c tables - you can go and try 10/25c.
 
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you cant play scared build your confidence follow BRM
 
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you cant play scared build your confidence follow BRM

this is true..if you play in fear..you should not even be on the table. You need to gamble alittle to win.. Read The super system by doyle
 
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ABC poker should work fine up to 25NL 9 max. Stay away from 6 max tables, they are a different animal, you'd probably get bluffed out of a ton of pots pre & post flop playing ABC @ 25nl 6 max. You'd also do fine with ABC in $5 single table sn'g's.
 
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i stopped reading "im a beginner in cash games".

Stop playing in the high stakes online mate. These higher stakes online dudes will crush u bcos they all have poker tools to tweak about ur game, unless ur playing the fish.

Learn the game and learn everything on this site b4 u start to play with large sums of money. Serious dude, ppl online will rack u dwn and stack u for ur bankroll!!!

Learn on the lower stakes, on this site (we have wkd memebers who rule at ring games) and u will improve ur game to crush the cash game stakes!!!

jus my oponion. We dont wanna see u loose too much of ur bankroll and having to reload (deposit).
 
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thanks alot for the info....i agree with the above, which is EXACTLY why i'm playin' $1 tourneys and .01/.02 cash games...i'm not gonna get wild and sit with $100 at a cash game or anything....but i just don't know the style of play in other stakes. i'd say i'm ABC+ at the moment skill-wise and i fully understand ABC players get ate up at higher stakes, which is why i wanted to know where exactly that style becomes an unprofitable style....tempting it is to drop $20 on a 90 plr sng, but i do feel i'm exercising good BRM by stickin' to the $1 tourneys until i get "stabilized" with $500 behind me.

thanks for the heads up (no pun intended) on the $5 SNG's i might stab at one or two here tomorrow (i'm drinking tonight so no poker fer me).:tee:
 
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I think the higher the limits the less ABC poker will work because the players at higher limits are more likely to play their hands tricky. They are also more likely to recognize ABC poker in another player and , in that case,your play would be more predictable. ABC poker works at micro limits because of the poor play.
 
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