What is my problem

#1 June 9th, 2019, 7:30 PM

Hey guys I got a question and don't really know the answer. I have been playing good and all of a sudden when playing i will have a draw or a hand that i know isn't going to win and someone will go all in and if i lose i am out. I do this with cash games too. So I call knowing I am beat i just tell myself F___it and go all in myself. Why do I do this? I don't know but it is killing my game. I have a problem and don't know what it is. Is that tilt or what. I will be doing good in the game till this happens and it happens a lot. What is this and why do i do it.

#2 June 9th, 2019, 7:38 PM

Sounds like you are on tilt and opening for a better outcome. I used to do it and still sometimes I do especially if I am low stack. So it all depends. I had a poker buddy tell me you cant lose your chips if they are not in the pot. I think about being pot committed, but sometimes it is best fold and live to see another hand. Just start saying NO and fold. Good luck.

#3 June 9th, 2019, 7:45 PM

It sounds like you are getting bored. Possibly because the stakes you are playing at are too low for you. Put a few hundred dollars on the line and I think you will feel quite differently.

#4 June 9th, 2019, 7:51 PM

The first step in stopping this pattern is recognizing it, which most people won�t, so you�re way ahead of the game by posting about it here! As you�re aware of, getting it in bad when you don�t have the odds to do so is a self-defeating activity that will really reduce your ROI in the long run.

I�d recommend committing yourself to having a very firm knowledge of the pot odds you need in various spots to be correct to get it in with non-made hands. CardsChat has a lot of great free articles on this that should help. Instead of feeling mad at yourself for getting it in bad, then you�ll be able to confidently and correctly identify those spots when you think you�re getting the right price even though you may be behind your opponent�s range overall. Hope this helps and best of luck! What is my problem

#5 June 9th, 2019, 7:55 PM

Hello.
This means that it is hard for you to control your emotions. I recommend that you try meditation. Sometimes I do meditation twice a day and it always helps me to control my emotional state and be focused.

#6 June 9th, 2019, 7:58 PM

Originally Posted by NeoBandit

Hey guys I got a question and don't really know the answer. I have been playing good and all of a sudden when playing i will have a draw or a hand that i know isn't going to win and someone will go all in and if i lose i am out. I do this with cash games too. So I call knowing I am beat i just tell myself F___it and go all in myself. Why do I do this? I don't know but it is killing my game. I have a problem and don't know what it is. Is that tilt or what. I will be doing good in the game till this happens and it happens a lot. What is this and why do i do it.

Sounds like Tilt to me.... "Tilt" is soooo Bad, when you type it in to Party Poker Chat box, XXXX comes out....

What is my problem

#7 June 9th, 2019, 8:00 PM

Perhaps you are very confident in the variance in your favor.
Tilt

#8 June 10th, 2019, 9:44 AM

Hi.
If you are very emotional, I do not recommend you to play cash games. It is better for you to start playing freerolls and thus train your patience and learn to control your emotions.
Good luck.

#9 June 10th, 2019, 9:55 AM

I think it's stupid. Need to learn read books watch video, The principles of Poker game. Craving for such actions you have to decrease. Develop!

#10 June 10th, 2019, 12:53 PM

Yes, sometimes. Good Board, you have a good hand, all chances are on your side, but you have a strong feeling that if you bet you lose. It's instinct. It's hard to explain. There are times that contrary to any logic you need to do as you say the inner voice.

#11 June 10th, 2019, 4:13 PM

poker is necessary to folder at the right time especially in an MTT. you have to be patient and wait for the right spot especially at the end of the game. you must continue to train and be rigorous and disipline. taking all the time before each decision helps to avoid committing too much error.

#12 June 10th, 2019, 4:57 PM

Originally Posted by NeoBandit

Hey guys I got a question and don't really know the answer. I have been playing good and all of a sudden when playing i will have a draw or a hand that i know isn't going to win and someone will go all in and if i lose i am out. I do this with cash games too. So I call knowing I am beat i just tell myself F___it and go all in myself. Why do I do this? I don't know but it is killing my game. I have a problem and don't know what it is. Is that tilt or what. I will be doing good in the game till this happens and it happens a lot. What is this and why do i do it.

Ive had the opposite problem last 3 days best hand gets beat every time to put me out.. Had a good run for couple days but now it doesnt matter what i do I lose. 3 outers 2 outers and even longer shots(straights) are hitting like its the best there is. and i have no clue what to do. Im very patient. I dont play shit hands like i see everyone else winning with or you see every one elses best hand holding but mine. Im so fkin frustrated right now. been playing .50 cent sng 1 sng and 1.50 9 man and 3 dollar 9 man and ive went from 40 to 7 bucks in 2 days from bs bad beats every dam time to put me out. i would love to be stupid and play a shit hand and lose but that isnt whats happening. Im not good to even be in same house with after all this BS. How am i supposed to build a roll if i cant beat a fkin donk or calling station?

#13 June 10th, 2019, 7:01 PM

Usually when that happens you make that decision very fast( at least that was the case for me)
Even though I still have that issue I found that thinking long and hard before every play for your tournament life or your stack in cash games is essential.
Take a deep breath and use your time bank as you are supposed to.

#14 June 10th, 2019, 7:28 PM

Originally Posted by Katie Dozier

The first step in stopping this pattern is recognizing it, which most people won�t, so you�re way ahead of the game by posting about it here! As you�re aware of, getting it in bad when you don�t have the odds to do so is a self-defeating activity that will really reduce your ROI in the long run.

I�d recommend committing yourself to having a very firm knowledge of the pot odds you need in various spots to be correct to get it in with non-made hands. CardsChat has a lot of great free articles on this that should help. Instead of feeling mad at yourself for getting it in bad, then you�ll be able to confidently and correctly identify those spots when you think you�re getting the right price even though you may be behind your opponent�s range overall. Hope this helps and best of luck! What is my problem

My first thoughts were not applying pot odds. Glad I read through the replies before posting, because I would't have said it so eloquently. If used correctly in those type of scenarios, you would be plus ROI.

+1

#15 June 10th, 2019, 7:30 PM

Originally Posted by MrPokerVerse

My first thoughts were not applying pot odds. Glad I read through the replies before posting, because I would't have said it so eloquently. If used correctly in those type of scenarios, you would be plus ROI.

+1

Thanks for the nice compliment, MrPoker What is my problem

#16 June 10th, 2019, 7:44 PM

Originally Posted by abwil2

Ive had the opposite problem last 3 days best hand gets beat every time to put me out.. Had a good run for couple days but now it doesnt matter what i do I lose. 3 outers 2 outers and even longer shots(straights) are hitting like its the best there is. and i have no clue what to do. Im very patient. I dont play shit hands like i see everyone else winning with or you see every one elses best hand holding but mine. Im so fkin frustrated right now. been playing .50 cent sng 1 sng and 1.50 9 man and 3 dollar 9 man and ive went from 40 to 7 bucks in 2 days from bs bad beats every dam time to put me out. i would love to be stupid and play a shit hand and lose but that isnt whats happening. Im not good to even be in same house with after all this BS. How am i supposed to build a roll if i cant beat a fkin donk or calling station?

Hello
I feel you
Having the same identical problem.

Solution;- waiting my while.
Not getting frustrated and accepting what is happening and hoping it passes soon. What is my problem

#17 June 10th, 2019, 7:55 PM

Try to force yourself on freerolls not to enter dubious moves. If your gut tells you what you need to fold, then you do it. It happens that the intuition brings and says not correctly. But such cases are few.

#18 June 10th, 2019, 7:55 PM

Wel on tournaments those risk are even desarable at some points if you want to win big field one, but in cash game everything is maths...

#19 June 11th, 2019, 2:21 AM

Sounds like you've suffered some bad beats and you're psychologically locked in certain circumstances. It takes practiced discipline to shake off fatalistic attributes once collected. Remind yourself NOT to prove yourself right when you have that fatalistic voice in your head. Each hand played is a new opportunity to adjust, adapt and overcome, even fold.

#20 June 11th, 2019, 2:32 AM

Hey.
I think you need to see hand statistics when you didn’t want to call, but called, lost or won. And maybe you will find a way out and you will find a way to avoid mistakes. It will also be an additional incentive not to play these cards in the game.

#21 June 11th, 2019, 5:22 AM

NeoBandit
I see you have a lot of problem posts ..., write your problem, the most difficult, and I will try to help you solve it. What would you like to get rid of?

#22 June 11th, 2019, 5:30 AM

Originally Posted by NeoBandit

Hey guys I got a question and don't really know the answer. I have been playing good and all of a sudden when playing i will have a draw or a hand that i know isn't going to win and someone will go all in and if i lose i am out. I do this with cash games too. So I call knowing I am beat i just tell myself F___it and go all in myself. Why do I do this? I don't know but it is killing my game. I have a problem and don't know what it is. Is that tilt or what. I will be doing good in the game till this happens and it happens a lot. What is this and why do i do it.

hi hi
i had that problem a LOT and it caused me to bust out of tournaments knowing i had the worst hand!
i discussed it with a friend/coach (shoulda been a psychiatrist)
i finally figured why i often do such a suicidal thing...
i am an independent young girl .. i no like be pushed around by men lol
so that's why i wouldn't fold to a guys shove
dumb huh?
so i know now and i do it less - less... i workin on it lol

#23 June 11th, 2019, 6:05 AM

It comes from bad habit you probably have won many times before in same spot and believe you can do it again. Just because you won a hand once does not make it right play.

"So I call knowing I am beat i just tell myself F___it and go all in myself"

This is the main cause of your problem you must take your time and consider all options on every street and have a plan from start to finish for hand. examples- before betting consider if I bet x what am I trying to accomplish? and if player goes all in when i bet what am I doing? do I really have best hand here? do I want to risk all of my stack with the holdings I got or can I wait for a better spot?

When starting out the best thing is to take a couple of sessions or tournaments and write out your decision making on a piece of paper for every hand played. Do this a few times and you will start to see areas you can improve on and it will get you thinking about hands. When it is physically there to read it sometimes easier to spot your mistakes than if it is just in your head.

Here is a link to some great content here at Cardschat. I suggest reading all of it (Except for the non-holdem games parts if you are holdem only player).

Do not try to read all of it at once read a little bit each day. I suggest reading "Getting Into Poker: 8 Lessons" and "The Math of Poker" sections multiple times there are very important information in those.

https://www.cardschat.com/poker-strategy.php

Originally Posted by NeoBandit

Hey guys I got a question and don't really know the answer. I have been playing good and all of a sudden when playing i will have a draw or a hand that i know isn't going to win and someone will go all in and if i lose i am out. I do this with cash games too. So I call knowing I am beat i just tell myself F___it and go all in myself. Why do I do this? I don't know but it is killing my game. I have a problem and don't know what it is. Is that tilt or what. I will be doing good in the game till this happens and it happens a lot. What is this and why do i do it.

#24 June 11th, 2019, 3:28 PM

You have already encountered the problem, now your focus should be the solution, ie no longer take the attitude that makes you less profitable.
Do not always give a hero call

#25 June 11th, 2019, 4:21 PM

I agree with Kate's response well thought out

#26 June 11th, 2019, 5:44 PM

My problem number 1 is finance, I can not invest because I am one breadwinner in the family I have three daughters and wife. Number 2 sometimes assume too aggressive play, and because of this lose. Number 3 can not always play vigilantly)

#27 June 12th, 2019, 3:04 AM

Originally Posted by puzzlefish

It sounds like you are getting bored. Possibly because the stakes you are playing at are too low for you. Put a few hundred dollars on the line and I think you will feel quite differently.

definitely don't do this. always play within your roll. If you're getting bored, which it sounds like, try adding an additional table. If you fold, there is always another hand coming right up. Stay solid and stick to the math, good luck

#28 June 12th, 2019, 5:24 AM

I do the same thing,I think i call to confirm my suspicions were correct and they do infact have the Q 10 for the nuts. we know we should fold but choose to call anyway, why... who knows!

#29 June 12th, 2019, 9:07 AM

It is very addictive. I struggled with this for three years. Than I started to win!

#30 June 12th, 2019, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by puzzlefish

It sounds like you are getting bored. Possibly because the stakes you are playing at are too low for you. Put a few hundred dollars on the line and I think you will feel quite differently.

Agree. If game is too slow and stakes are low then you are just bored. If you need adrenaline in playing poker, just try to play Spin&Go in highest stake that you aford to What is my problem

#31 June 12th, 2019, 10:40 AM

I agree with the posters said that you're bored and possibly a tad curious to see if your suspicions are correct so you call to see exactly what they have. I do this too from time to time so you're not alone but at least you recognize a leak in your game and can work to correct this problem you have. Good luck and always remember you can't lose what you don't put in the middle.

#32 June 13th, 2019, 12:57 PM

how to stay cold during the tournament? What is my problem

#33 June 14th, 2019, 8:28 PM

hahaha, I think these tilt friend, rethink the levels you play, maybe looking for a short-term challenge, or definitely leave it

#34 June 14th, 2019, 11:52 PM

Thanks for this concern I realized that I am falling into the same! from now on I will think about the advice given here

#35 June 15th, 2019, 12:52 AM

You have to control your self, that behavior is not going to take you anywhere, control your bankroll and your mindset!

#36 June 15th, 2019, 4:32 PM

Originally Posted by NeoBandit

Hey guys I got a question and don't really know the answer. I have been playing good and all of a sudden when playing i will have a draw or a hand that i know isn't going to win and someone will go all in and if i lose i am out. I do this with cash games too. So I call knowing I am beat i just tell myself F___it and go all in myself. Why do I do this? I don't know but it is killing my game. I have a problem and don't know what it is. Is that tilt or what. I will be doing good in the game till this happens and it happens a lot. What is this and why do i do it.

Daniel Kahneman, to think slow decide quickly - audiobook !!! I am sure this book will help you !!!!

#37 June 15th, 2019, 5:05 PM

ive been going thru that for last week, get great hands figure i got the hand tie then the river card and poof the guys got the better hand, ot i got trips the guy has A/7 not suited
he gets a straight or a flush.
its nuts but things will change and get better, we just have to week those players out let them kill themselfs. and dont allways thing top pair is high hand because its not. play safe

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