What was he doing, very odd play

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Ok so I am playing at a $20 nl table, have about $30 in front of me, and villian has about $25. nobody else in the hand, he is first to act.

Hero Dealt 7hearts 8hearts
Villian min raised to 40c
Hero re raises to $1
Villian raises to $1.60 (i think)
Hero Calls

flop
7clubs, 3 spades, 8 clubs

Villian checks
Hero bets $3.20
Villian thinks, thinks, Raises to $6.40
Hero delays for a few seconds and raises all in.
Villian delays for 10 seconds then calls

Turn
4 spades
River
10 Diamonds


Right... what do we think the villian had?

I put him on either Aces (some low stakes players love min raising pf with these)
or more likely Ace trash of clubs

scroll...




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Villian flips over

Ace diamonds, 4 hearts

Hero collects pot




answers on a post card please........?
 
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Ok, this is unfair. You cannot post this here and just call him "Villain" ... we want names! We want to make some money too! :D
 
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He had the best hand preflop, you re-raised with a 7-8 suited? All you just did was get lucky on the flop. I know it's small limits but I'd have folded after the initial raise, ask yourself why is it the min raise...b/c he was trying to trap. Why is it that when someone sees any suited connector they think they have a good hand?
 
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Not a very smart play on his part, he musta been counting on aces, but why do people do that? I see people go all-in with nothing too much! Do they think everyone bluffs all the time? I definately woulda folded, quicklike!
 
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Reraised and called a rereraise with 78? Yes that guy was stupid...in the end...but what were you doing in the pot? He could have had you crushed preflop with q's k's aces, or at least any 2 overcards (just lucky he only had what he had), you just got lucky on the flop. You would have been lucky enough to have seen 4 8 K or something on the flop, do you call his reraises you on the flop then?
 
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I don't see anything wrong with Hero's play at all tbh. Villain was simply an idiot.
 
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I would love to give the poker room and villians name, but I feel i would get an influx of sharks. Suffice to say - he was added to my buddy list

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Just to add, nothing wrong with re (raising) with suited connectors - as long as you know when to fold. A vital tool in winning at poker is unpredictability.
 
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Just to add, nothing wrong with re (raising) with suited connectors - as long as you know when to fold. A vital tool in winning at poker is unpredictability.

I agree...ONLY AK suited, maybe KQ or QJ, JT...maybe.

Just because the pros on tv do it is no reson you should, especially at limits TIS LOW, they do it because of implied odds, for this implied odds are no where near worth it.
 
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I agree...ONLY AK suited, maybe KQ or QJ, JT...maybe.

Just because the pros on tv do it is no reson you should, especially at limits TIS LOW, they do it because of implied odds, for this implied odds are no where near worth it.

umm, implied odds are bigger here than for the pros just because of the fact that idiots like this will stack off with A high. I don't agree with the raise preflop though, just call the preflop minraise and see a cheap flop.
 
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Yea in general you dont want to 3-bet light until you are >100NL. Ppl at these stacks in general don't really care what you have...they are playing their hand. Not a good idea to go HU w/ SC vs this guy who was obviously going to play any hand to the death as you had to get very lucky.

Pros do it to disguise their hands, because they play so often with one another and because of larger implied odds. It's hands like T7s that hit a flop that end up with large pots for the pros coz it is very well disguised preflop if raised/reraised etc.

While sure you get better implied odds vs donks online coz some are willing to stack themselves for no reason, players like that you can stack after seeing a cheaper flop just as easy as trying to isolate etc. Besides with 87s you want as many ppl in the pot as you can...definitely don't want to be HU.
 
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I presume all those knocking re raising with suited conns have tried it at low limits and have not been successful. Everybody plays differently and I feel this play works BEST at low stakes tables. As top pair top kicker will nearly always pay you off. It is only a bad play if you do not know what you are doing. I tend to win huge pots with suited connectors when up against TPTK, high PP or somebody slowplaying trips etc.

Anybody else feel the same, or is it just me?
 
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"HU w/ SC vs this guy who was obviously going to play any hand to the death as you had to get very lucky"




its not as if i would have continued if the flop came A27, lol
 
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His long pause was time spent manipulating the RNG.
"Hmmm...??? Let's see what can I do that will really f' with our Hero's head?"
"Oh, I've got it. This will be great! I'll give him 2-pair on the flop, then call his all-in, then BOOM runner runner with no possible draw!" :eek:

Better luck next time. :cool:
 
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His long pause was time spent manipulating the RNG.
"Hmmm...??? Let's see what can I do that will really f' with our Hero's head?"
"Oh, I've got it. This will be great! I'll give him 2-pair on the flop, then call his all-in, then BOOM runner runner with no possible draw!" :eek:

Better luck next time. :cool:

umm, did you read this? The OP won the pot lol.

Of course if you switch your hand with KK and the river to an A you get a post in the bad beats section.
 
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Whoops, I was anticipating the bad beat once I saw the first pair roll off for the villian on the turn.
So now I say, "WTG!"
 
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Man. I don't know what goes through some people's heads that allows them to call all-in's with nothing but ace high. Seriously, i can't think of any way, no matter how much on tilt, I could call a bet like that.
 
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