What are Good BB/100h Winrates??

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What are solid winrates at the various micro/low level no limit full ring holdem tables? Specifically $5 NL and $10 NL(.02/.05), where I've been, $25 NL, where I am, and $50 NL+, where I'm hopefully going.

At $5 NL I held 26BB/100h for 9k hands, then moved up to $10 NL where I held 15BB/100h for 14,800 hands, and now I've just moved up to $25 NL where I still have noting for sample size, 1,790 hands, and have a winrate of 9.5BB/100h.

I keep hearing things that make me think I'm either amazing, or killing the crap out of the previous 2 levels in a statistically anomolous way, I'm inclined to believe the latter. Feedback is always appreciated by all, but specifically I am interested to hear real life results from people who've done it, or are doing it. Thanks.
 
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First you're calling $5 NL $10 NL so don't know if you skipped $10 NL (.05/.10)? I have the same results from 2NL and 5NL as you have but haven't gone past 10 NL :dong: where I haven't run well. Obv. you don't have enough hands at 25NL yet, if that's sustainable then its on the high end. Some 25NL and 50 NL+ players will have to answer how it goes from there and up...
 
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$$/hr should be the main concern. If you only play a couple of tables, then you should be able to have ridiculous BB/100 numbers, but your BB/hr won't be all that great.

I'd give estimates, but i haven't played near enough FR to give accurate numbers. Suffice it to say however that it is perfectly easy to run like a god (or terrible) over 20-30k hands, so i wouldn't put too much weight on your numbers just yet. You probably need like 300k+ hands to have a real accurate BB/100 number. Over my best 30k stretch i've made $5000, over my worst i just broke even (ie. made nothing).
 
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Depends on why you play. I'm currently at the point where any positive BB/100 is a good thing at FR. But also, I'm much better at tournaments so I don't do many ring games.

And I think OP might have been saying that he plays 5NL (.02/.05) and was referring to it as "$5 NL and $10 NL" because people can buy in for either 5 or 10 at that level.
 
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Edit, sorry didn't know how to just edit.

Sorry, I tried to just edit, but couldn't figure out how. When I say 5NL I mean the .01/.02. When I say 10NL I mean .02/.05, and yes I skipped the .05/.10 and went straight to the .10/.25 for 25NL. I play to make money :eek: . But specifically with a mind to climbing the ranks and possibly making a job of it, or at least a pleasent second income. Hope that clarifies all points. Also, this is all on pokerstars. Thanks for the input so far. Oh, and playing between 3 and 6 tables, mainly around 4. Eventually might increase, but first want to solidify my play, then move up.
 
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IveGot0uts said:
Sorry, I tried to just edit, but couldn't figure out how. When I say 5NL I mean the .01/.02. When I say 10NL I mean .02/.05, and yes I skipped the .05/.10 and went straight to the .10/.25 for 25NL. I play to make money :eek: . But specifically with a mind to climbing the ranks and possibly making a job of it, or at least a pleasent second income. Hope that clarifies all points. Also, this is all on PokerStars. Thanks for the input so far. Oh, and playing between 3 and 6 tables, mainly around 4. Eventually might increase, but first want to solidify my play, then move up.
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By the way, the convention is that a limit is referred to by 100xBB. For example, .02/.05 is 5NL and $1/$2 is 200NL.
 
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IveGot0uts said:
What are solid winrates at the various micro/low level no limit full ring holdem tables? Specifically $5 NL and $10 NL(.02/.05), where I've been, $25 NL, where I am, and $50 NL+, where I'm hopefully going.

At $5 NL I held 26BB/100h for 9k hands, then moved up to $10 NL where I held 15BB/100h for 14,800 hands, and now I've just moved up to $25 NL where I still have noting for sample size, 1,790 hands, and have a winrate of 9.5BB/100h.

I keep hearing things that make me think I'm either amazing, or killing the crap out of the previous 2 levels in a statistically anomolous way, I'm inclined to believe the latter. Feedback is always appreciated by all, but specifically I am interested to hear real life results from people who've done it, or are doing it. Thanks.
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pretty good BB's I have to say. I would be happy with 10BBs at the $25+ level,
 
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Sample sizes are tiny. For instance, when you play 250bb deep at 2nl, a coin flip for stacks affects your win rate by 2.5 BB/100 over 10k hands. 100bb deep at 25nl, a coin flip for stacks affects your win rate by 5 BB/100 over 2k hands.

Don't know about 2nl and 5nl as i never played those. 10BB/100 at 25nl is on the very high side. You're most likely on a heater. Leatherass says he maintained about 5BB/100 at all levels while moving up in stakes and he plays better than any of us can dream of.
 
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I think we need to set big blinds/100 as the SI unit, to avoid confusion with the abhorrent ptbb/100.
 
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F Paulsson said:
I think we need to set big blinds/100 as the SI unit, to avoid confusion with the abhorrent ptbb/100.
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fwiw, in my above post, I used bb as big blind and BB as big bet, so BB=ptbb.
 
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I also mean to say big bets (2x big blind) when i say BB/100 and would be going with bb/100 to say big blinds. Sorry for confusion, new to forums, thought that was the convention. Also, I thought the convention was to refer to limits by their max buy in? Not looking to say I know anything, just looking to confirm all manner of forum speak so that I can be more clear in the future. Thanks.
 
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Normally we refer to limits by their max buyin, but at low levels sometimes the max buyin is not 100bb. Like at 0.02/0.05 the max buyin is often 10 dollars, but at 0.05/0.1 the buyin is also 10 dollars. To avoid confusion, we just always stick to 100bb.
 
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IveGot0uts said:
I also mean to say big bets (2x big blind) when i say BB/100 and would be going with bb/100 to say big blinds. Sorry for confusion, new to forums, thought that was the convention. Also, I thought the convention was to refer to limits by their max buy in? Not looking to say I know anything, just looking to confirm all manner of forum speak so that I can be more clear in the future. Thanks.
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Oh, no reason to apologize. The entire planet - myself included - use BB for both big blind and big bet, and we're not very good with distinguishing when we're using the one or the other. My complaint was directed at the cosmos in large, not to anyone in this thread.
 
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