Stick66
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I'm meaning this question towards specifically the VP$IP% stat. Is there just one number that is the threshold between loose or tight? Or is there a "tight range", an "average range", and a "loose range"?
I bring this up because I've run across this question a couple times recently. Once was in my recent "AA w/rag board" thread and the other time was in a thread about autorating in PokerTracker. It seems there is a difference of opinion around here.
Anyway, is 25% tight or average? Is 35% average or loose? I'm confused.
Here's my latest PT autoratings for further discussion:
Autorate Rules Begin
Aggression:Y
ARI_2 1 WP- Fish
15 4 1.00 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 1.00
2 4 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00
1 1 45.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 45.00
21 2 12.00 When Folds - Flop % is greater than or equal to 12.00
ARI_12 2 WP+ Calling Stn.
15 4 1.00 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 1.00
2 4 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00
1 1 45.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 45.00
21 3 12.00 When Folds - Flop % is less than 12.00
ARI_8 3 WAG Caller
15 1 1.00 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than 1.00
2 4 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00
1 1 45.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 45.00
ARI_7 4 LAP Chaser
15 3 1.00 Aggression Factor - Total is less than 1.00
2 1 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than 5.00
1 1 45.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 45.00
ARI_10 5 LAG Wild
15 2 1.00 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.00
2 1 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than 5.00
1 1 45.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 45.00
ARI_14 6 sW Flopper
2 4 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00
1 5 35.00 45.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 35.00 and 45.00
ARI_5 7 sAP Avg Player
15 3 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is less than 1.50
2 1 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than 5.00
1 5 35.00 45.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 35.00 and 45.00
ARI_4 8 sAG Avg Aggro
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
2 1 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than 5.00
1 5 35.00 45.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 35.00 and 45.00
ARI_13 9 WTP- Weak
15 3 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is less than 1.50
2 4 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00
1 3 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 35.00
3 3 25.00 Went To Showdown % is less than 25.00
ARI_9 10 WTP+ Rock
15 3 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is less than 1.50
2 4 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00
1 3 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 35.00
3 2 25.00 Went To Showdown % is greater than or equal to 25.00
ARI_11 11 sTAG Avg Tight
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
2 4 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00
1 3 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 35.00
ARI_6 12 TsAG Good PF
15 3 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is less than 1.50
2 1 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than 5.00
1 3 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 35.00
ARI_15 13 TAG- Good Plyr
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
2 1 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than 5.00
1 3 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 35.00
13 3 7.00 Win Rate Per 100 Hands is less than 7.00
ARI_3 14 TAG+ Excellent
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
2 1 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than 5.00
1 3 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 35.00
13 2 7.00 Win Rate Per 100 Hands is greater than or equal to 7.00
Autorate Rules End
I bring this up because I've run across this question a couple times recently. Once was in my recent "AA w/rag board" thread and the other time was in a thread about autorating in PokerTracker. It seems there is a difference of opinion around here.
Anyway, is 25% tight or average? Is 35% average or loose? I'm confused.
Here's my latest PT autoratings for further discussion:
Autorate Rules Begin
Aggression:Y
ARI_2 1 WP- Fish
15 4 1.00 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 1.00
2 4 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00
1 1 45.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 45.00
21 2 12.00 When Folds - Flop % is greater than or equal to 12.00
ARI_12 2 WP+ Calling Stn.
15 4 1.00 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 1.00
2 4 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00
1 1 45.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 45.00
21 3 12.00 When Folds - Flop % is less than 12.00
ARI_8 3 WAG Caller
15 1 1.00 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than 1.00
2 4 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00
1 1 45.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 45.00
ARI_7 4 LAP Chaser
15 3 1.00 Aggression Factor - Total is less than 1.00
2 1 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than 5.00
1 1 45.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 45.00
ARI_10 5 LAG Wild
15 2 1.00 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.00
2 1 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than 5.00
1 1 45.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 45.00
ARI_14 6 sW Flopper
2 4 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00
1 5 35.00 45.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 35.00 and 45.00
ARI_5 7 sAP Avg Player
15 3 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is less than 1.50
2 1 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than 5.00
1 5 35.00 45.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 35.00 and 45.00
ARI_4 8 sAG Avg Aggro
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
2 1 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than 5.00
1 5 35.00 45.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 35.00 and 45.00
ARI_13 9 WTP- Weak
15 3 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is less than 1.50
2 4 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00
1 3 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 35.00
3 3 25.00 Went To Showdown % is less than 25.00
ARI_9 10 WTP+ Rock
15 3 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is less than 1.50
2 4 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00
1 3 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 35.00
3 2 25.00 Went To Showdown % is greater than or equal to 25.00
ARI_11 11 sTAG Avg Tight
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
2 4 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than or equal to 5.00
1 3 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 35.00
ARI_6 12 TsAG Good PF
15 3 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is less than 1.50
2 1 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than 5.00
1 3 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 35.00
ARI_15 13 TAG- Good Plyr
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
2 1 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than 5.00
1 3 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 35.00
13 3 7.00 Win Rate Per 100 Hands is less than 7.00
ARI_3 14 TAG+ Excellent
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
2 1 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than 5.00
1 3 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 35.00
13 2 7.00 Win Rate Per 100 Hands is greater than or equal to 7.00
Autorate Rules End