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hi everyone

i have been playing on vc poker for a few months now.And won a seat to goto the irish winter festival (the pachage is worth $4500.00)

I also got money depoisted into my account.(£540.00)

I tried to cash it out,unfortunitly my prime card does not allow it.As i did not have a bank account, i asked a friend who also plays on the same site (VC) to cash it for me.So we played heads up and i folded every hand, untill he had all my money.

that same evening my account was susspened for investigation regarding this.

i have replied to them and still not recieved any replies.

Is there anyone out there that has had the same problem and how did you resolve it .

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Instead of doing something they would consider suspect. why didn't you just ask for a check?
 
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Fortunetly for their customers VC did the right thing! Any sign of foul play is a viable reason for acct suspension. Just look at what the the credit card companies are doing now. If you happen to charge a sizeable amount of money (more than you usually do) in 1 day, they will suspend activity on your card and shoot you an email or phone call asking for confirmation that it was indeed you that used the card! Its happend twice to me already. Yes it was a bit inconvenient, but I was comforted to know that if someone did get hold of my cc, they could not go crazy with it! A player to player $ transfer might have worked?
 
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I think you should have contacted support in the first place to see the other options for cashing out. Many sites offer different methods for your convenience.
 
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Yeah, what you did was.......dumb! You can cash a check almost anywhere, any grocery store, almost any bank (even if you don't have an account).
 
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It don't matter what site ite is, chip dumping is a violation of the T/C policy. VC just followed policy. There is always a way to get your money without breaking policy.
 
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i did ask for a cheque but they refused said they had to put it into my account,and they don't have software to make transfers either like pokerstars.Maybe it was dumb but i was desperate at the time.will let u guys know the out come

thanks for all relpies
 
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It might have been a bad move from yourself. I guess you'll have troubles to get your money back, but i wish you the best.
 
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It's amazing how many new people there are who come on here and think things like chipdumping and multi-accounting are perfectly fine. Boggles the mind.
 
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especially on a smallish type of site like VC, on PS or FT maybe you could get away with all the high traffic, but my guess is you play a really high stakes HU on a low traffic site and they saw this imediatly, stupid imo.....build the money more until you find a respectable way to cash out...if they are working on stopping things like this then I'm sure they have time to help their members cash out
 
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This is called dumping and I don't think there's any site where this is permitted.
 
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Where u went wrong was chip dumping. You two couldve played a little friendly game of poker and got away with it probably. Or just ask for a check next time. How unfortunate...
 
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And seeing as VC doesn't allow player to player chip transfers, that probably should have trigged some sense of "oh maybe i shouldn't be doing this". It is very clearly stated on their website that this is a direct violation of the ToC. Probably SoL as this is about as stupid and illegal a thing as you could do.

I had no problem with VC when i played there for a little bit a while ago...it isn't exactly that hard to set up a checking account and to run a bank transfer.
 
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Hard to believe that they did not have a withdrawal method that you could utilize.

In the US we have had to get a little creative and I currently have 3 methods to use that work very well.

If you love playing poker and the convenience of playing online poker, I have to agree with many of the posts here...chipdumping was pretty boneheaded and I want the pokerrooms to be diligent in protecting the integrity of the entire gaming experience up to and including financial transacting.

My 2 cents.
 
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contacted them today by phone,they have not recieved any of my emails i also guess i lose my 4500 package too as my account is closed they benifit from this,yesssssssssss.... a dumb and stupid mistake never cheated never thought about i just wanted the money i did ask but they suggested get another card.... i feel it's their way of saving money take not their were to of us involved and my freinds also got chafted for my dumbb mistake.If they were any good of deicent poker site the would look into it and except it as a accident and reopen it .since when is giving my money away classed as cheating.....they are terrible when it comes to situations like this and profit from it too.

i got to call them tomorrow around 14 00 gmt time will post the out come,but i feel i ain't gonna get it. strict and whicked i did enjoy playing there it's just the way things that have happened that sucks!!
 
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That sucks! But what you have done was not a very smart option. Isn't there a rule in the faq that this is not allowed?
Gl, I hope you get your money back.
 
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I would suggest to you and everyone that reads this thread....ALWAYS call the phone number listed and ask how they pay out, how long it takes, what options are avaliable to you BEFORE you play at their site, and for sure before you make a deposit. When all else fails use a service like ewallet or paypal (does paypal still do poker sites???)
 
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Yeah, what you did was.......dumb! You can cash a check almost anywhere, any grocery store, almost any bank (even if you don't have an account).

MY man (or woman, lol:D ), that's got to be right on the Money, Was about to post the same answer
 
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It's amazing how many new people there are who come on here and think things like chipdumping and multi-accounting are perfectly fine. Boggles the mind.

Lol, look first've of all I only mulit accounted on Titan and the only reason is because the password they give you, plus that long as number is so hard and confusing to recall everytime, that's why my account was shut down, period end of disscussion, (nah just joking:D ), not about the account being shut down though:(, just joking about the fact it was shut down, I could care less since I never deposisted a penny and they shut me down, but that's the reason I multi accounted on that site, cuz I could not remember the password or that long number, ever
 
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Was anyone else certain that this thread was gonna be about chatroom violations? :laugh:

yesssssssssss.... a dumb and stupid mistake never cheated never thought about i just wanted the money.

If they were any good of deicent poker site the would look into it and except it as a accident and reopen it .since when is giving my money away classed as cheating.....they are terrible when it comes to situations like this and profit from it too.

Took the liberty of cropping your message a bit. I think some of you should cut this guy some slack. Not everyone is as online poker savvy as all y'all. I know you should read the FAQs carefully. And I fully appreciate the criticalness of maintaining site integrity. But if this is an honest mistake (and can't they not disprove this? don't they maintain records of every game you've ever played?), perhaps a final warning with SOME penalty for 1st time offenders would be more in order. Does the FAQ not only say they can close your acct, but seize your cash too?!?

Personally, I've never thought much about the issue of chip dumping or what could possibly be the reasons you'd want to do it. But for example, in the case of UB, they don't allow transfers for regular 'members' status, but they DO for upgraded members (you have to DEPOSIT I think). So between friends, I could see how one might 'chip dump', without even realizing it was wrong or really cheating anyone but maybe UB out of another deposit. Perhaps without even realizing that THAT was what is called 'chip dumping'.

FWIW GFY :p , I believe this was an honest (albeit misguided) mistake, meant as a simple workaround to circumvent these pesky withdrawal problems. Hope it's resolved with a good outcome. Post it if you would.
 
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Sorry DB, but ignorance of the rules and conditions does not excuse one from their actions. There is a reason that ALL sites have this rule in place. How do they know they aren't laundering funds, or something of that nature? Or perhaps a user is underage, and provided false information upon sign-up, or used a stolen credit card to fund their account, and are now trying to pass off the funds to avoid detection? Not saying this is the case for the OP, but you can see why it probably isn't wise for the site to make exceptions to the rule.

It's up to the user to make sure they know and understand a site's T&C, and if they are unsure of something, should always contact support, rather than take matters into their own hands. There is no way I'm putting $4500+ at risk by not knowing if what I'm doing is 100% legitimate. I'm sure GFY wasn't intentionally cheating, but he should have exhausted all avenues with support. Unfortunately, he brought this one on himself. I really can't fault VC for their actions. Good luck to you though, GFY.
 
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Took the liberty of cropping your message a bit. I think some of you should cut this guy some slack. Not everyone is as online poker savvy as all y'all. I know you should read the FAQs carefully. And I fully appreciate the criticalness of maintaining site integrity. But if this is an honest mistake (and can't they not disprove this? don't they maintain records of every game you've ever played?), perhaps a final warning with SOME penalty for 1st time offenders would be more in order. Does the FAQ not only say they can close your acct, but seize your cash too?!?

Personally, I've never thought much about the issue of chip dumping or what could possibly be the reasons you'd want to do it. But for example, in the case of Ultimatebet, they don't allow transfers for regular 'members' status, but they DO for upgraded members (you have to DEPOSIT I think). So between friends, I could see how one might 'chip dump', without even realizing it was wrong or really cheating anyone but maybe UB out of another deposit. Perhaps without even realizing that THAT was what is called 'chip dumping'.

FWIW GFY :p , I believe this was an honest (albeit misguided) mistake, meant as a simple workaround to circumvent these pesky withdrawal problems. Hope it's resolved with a good outcome. Post it if you would.
"Gee, officer. I didn't realize I was speeding." LOL!

It's amazing how many new-ish people there are who come on here and think things like chipdumping and multi-accounting are perfectly fine. Boggles the mind.
A new "boggle" everyday, I guess.
 
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I only have 3 words in response to this thread.................Due Diligence Amigo!!!!
 
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Sorry DB, but ignorance of the rules and conditions does not excuse one from their actions. There is a reason that ALL sites have this rule in place. How do they know they aren't laundering funds, or something of that nature? Or perhaps a user is underage, and provided false information upon sign-up, or used a stolen credit card to fund their account, and are now trying to pass off the funds to avoid detection? Not saying this is the case for the OP, but you can see why it probably isn't wise for the site to make exceptions to the rule.

It's up to the user to make sure they know and understand a site's T&C, and if they are unsure of something, should always contact support, rather than take matters into their own hands. There is no way I'm putting $4500+ at risk by not knowing if what I'm doing is 100% legitimate. I'm sure GFY wasn't intentionally cheating, but he should have exhausted all avenues with support. Unfortunately, he brought this one on himself. I really can't fault VC for their actions. Good luck to you though, GFY.

You've explained it in such a way, that I now fully agree, it doesn't excuse it at all. You just mentioned a myriad of ways that chip dumping could be very seriously abused in ways I never thought of. I simply never thought much (or read much) about it. I'd still say that it's conceivable for someone (ignorant, not necessarily stupid) do to it with no evil intentions. But certainly, if you had a $1k in cash and a $4,500 package on the line, you'd wanna keep it clean.

It's also conceivable that someone signing up at a poker site for the first time might be a total nube, can't wait to start playing, skimming through the FAQ, skipping what they don't fully understand (and don't think would ever apply to them), and forget the FAQ a year later. I think some here might take for granted the knowledge we get here. I'd imagine most out there don't really frequent forums like this, where you're reminded of 'issues' on a regular basis.
 
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