Update on Gowen's case for anyone who is interested

pokerchris · Jun 15, 2011

Gowen, who lives in Texas, alleged that Tiltware violated a promise to give her a 1 percent ownership stake in the company once it became profitable in exchange for use of her celebrity status to promote the Full Tilt brand. The 9th Circuit's ruling means she can proceed on her breach of contract and misrepresentation claims

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/jun/13/appeals-court-ruling-partial-victory-professional-/

Madness_does · Jun 15, 2011

in a case that could provide another blow to the battered online poker industry.

Yeah just great, these are the same mother phuckers that caused all this shit in the first place, makes you look back and say gee our elected officals are really protecting our rights, oops what rights, I tend to beg the question at this point and not ask weather poker is a game of skill or luck, I like to know is how the phuck did my country become a fascist Nazi regime where the gov. tells people how to spend their money.

absoluthamm · Jun 15, 2011

Changing the f to ph doesn't change the fact that you're using language that isn't allowed.

The situation above really doesn't have much to do with the other stuff that is going on in the poker industry right now, although I do agree with you on the point that I don't think the government needs their hands in everything like they do. Smaller government is better, but that is a completely different subject, so no need to derail from the OP

OzExorcist · Jun 17, 2011

So... if I'm reading this right she'll be allowed to proceed with the lawsuit against Tiltware / Bitar / Lederer but all the other members of Team Full Tilt that were named in the original suit are off the hook?

GoBilliards · Jun 17, 2011

oh my, off the hook is player specific.

smd173 · Jun 18, 2011

OzExorcist said:
So... if I'm reading this right she'll be allowed to proceed with the lawsuit against Tiltware / Bitar / Lederer but all the other members of Team Full Tilt that were named in the original suit are off the hook?

Yep. But 1% of $0 is $0.

PlayedYou73 · Jun 18, 2011

Madness_does said:
in a case that could provide another blow to the battered online poker industry.

Yeah just great, these are the same mother phuckers that caused all this shit in the first place, makes you look back and say gee our elected officals are really protecting our rights, oops what rights, I tend to beg the question at this point and not ask weather poker is a game of skill or luck, I like to know is how the phuck did my country become a fascist Nazi regime where the gov. tells people how to spend their money.

Ummn, all the government is doing is enforcing sections of the Bank and Wire Act, which the poker companies were pretty clearly violating.
The UIGEA charges are a little greyer, but nothing to ignore either.
I dunno how you equate "that" with a fascist Nazi regime. There's no stormtroopers in the streets, no mass executions, democracy and elections are still going on.
I love how some people compare people or events to Nazism, without having much information at all on what Nazism was truly like.

pokerchris · Jun 18, 2011

PlayedYou73 said:
Ummn, all the government is doing is enforcing sections of the Bank and Wire Act, which the poker companies were pretty clearly violating.
The UIGEA charges are a little greyer, but nothing to ignore either.
I dunno how you equate "that" with a fascist Nazi regime. There's no stormtroopers in the streets, no mass executions, democracy and elections are still going on.
I love how some people compare people or events to Nazism, without having much information at all on what Nazism was truly like.

Where is the injustice and who is the victim?
There are thousands of laws on the book and a lot of more serious crimes out there. But this is the most important one the DOJ choose to enforce?

absoluthamm · Jun 20, 2011

pokerchris said:
Where is the injustice and who is the victim?
There are thousands of laws on the book and a lot of more serious crimes out there. But this is the most important one the DOJ choose to enforce?

You answered your own question right there. Under the current laws, they were committing a crime, and any crime is punishable. That is the same as people who complain about how they got pulled over and got a ticket when they were speeding and the cops should have been out arresting a drug dealer or murderer. Both are laws that are being broken, one is obviously the more serious, but they both need to be regulated nonetheless.

pokerchris · Jun 20, 2011

absoluthamm said:
You answered your own question right there. Under the current laws, they were committing a crime, and any crime is punishable. That is the same as people who complain about how they got pulled over and got a ticket when they were speeding and the cops should have been out arresting a drug dealer or murderer. Both are laws that are being broken, one is obviously the more serious, but they both need to be regulated nonetheless.

The questions are "Where is the injustice and who is the victim? " in those things that those sites did and the DOJ accused them of.
NO ONE has answered those questions YET.

OzExorcist · Jun 21, 2011

pokerchris said:
The questions are "Where is the injustice and who is the victim? " in those things that those sites did and the DOJ accused them of.
NO ONE has answered those questions YET.

There are two reasons for that.

One is that there are no good answers. The other is that the questions are irrelevant in the first place - as long any law exists, someone will eventually get around to enforcing it and it doesn't matter a damn that there are worse crimes being committed in the world.

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