Ultimate Bet: 4 boats in 21 hands

I won a couple bucks in a CC freeroll, so I played some microstakes PL Holdem on Ultimate Bet. It seems like there was a freakish amount of good hands.

In 21 hands, for winning hands there were:
4 boats
3 flushes
2 straights
2 sets

That's a monster hand more than 50% of the time. Not to mention that there was set over set twice and straight over straight once.

Small sample, variance, wierd stuff happens, no proof, yadda yadda...

I just think it's very strange, and worth noting.

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<< Result for Hand 1363885336 >>
AKRICHARD wins (26c) with (Three of a kind, nines).
<< Result for Hand 1363886246 >>
AKRICHARD wins ($1.30) with (Two Pair, sevens and fours).
<< Result for Hand 1363887325 >>
SWINGZPOKER wins ($2.07) with (Full house, twos full of tens).
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<< Result for Hand 1363888191 >>
SWINGZPOKER wins ($3.15) with (Full house, kings full of eights).
<< Result for Hand 1363889496 >>
SWINGZPOKER wins ($1.03 chips).
<< Result for Hand 1363890654 >>
SWINGZPOKER wins ($4.14) with (Flush, ace high).
<< Result for Hand 1363891376 >>
GDRILEYX wins ($1.58) with (Two Pair, kings and tens).
<< Result for Hand 1363892175 >>
JUJUPOKER wins (9c) with (Flush, jack high).
SAVESTHEDAY: mew as in the band?
<< Result for Hand 1363893460 >>
DANNYBOY54 wins (71c) with (ace high).
MEEW666: no
SAVESTHEDAY: dam i had pock 6s
SAVESTHEDAY: whenever i fold pockets that happens
<< Result for Hand 1363894277 >>
AKRICHARD wins (8c) with (Two Pair, sixes and fours).
<< Result for Hand 1363895564 >>
STEVYYYYY111 wins (56c) with (Two Pair, jacks and sixes).
<< Result for Hand 1363896612 >>
AKRICHARD wins (13c chips).
<< Result for Hand 1363897470 >>
AKRICHARD wins (30c) with (Two Pair, queens and sevens).
GDRILEYX wins (30c) with (Two Pair, queens and sevens).
SAVESTHEDAY: ne girls?
<< Result for Hand 1363898873 >>
MEEW666 wins ($2.87) with (Three of a kind, eights).
<< Result for Hand 1363900179 >>
BALLY25 wins ($1.46) with (Full house, nines full of aces).
<< Result for Hand 1363900918 >>
DANNYBOY54 wins ($1.30) with (Two Pair, aces and sixes).
<< Result for Hand 1363901774 >>
STEVYYYYY111 wins (40c) with (Straight, ace to five).
<< Result for Hand 1363902988 >>
MEEW666 wins (8c) with (One pair, threes).
<< Result for Hand 1363904141 >>
JUJUPOKER wins ($1.18 chips).
JGUNZ12: whose gonna double me up
JUJUPOKER: i cant if you fold
AKRICHARD: lol was thinkin the same thing
JGUNZ12: opps i want nl
JGUNZ12: later
<< Result for Hand 1363905950 >>
STEVYYYYY111 wins (27c) with (Straight, four to eight).
<< Result for Hand 1363907620 >>
GDRILEYX wins ($2.31) with (One pair, threes).
<< Result for Hand 1363908464 >>
MEEW666 wins (60c) with (Flush, king high).
BALLY25: nh had to take a risk with three kings
<< Result for Hand 1363909891 >>
MEEW666 wins ($1.91) with (Full house, sevens full of tens).

That's what happens when everybody gets to see the flop, which is typical of micro PLHE.

Move up in stakes if this troubles you. People tend to fold more preflop when it costs more than $0.02 to see it.

I went to the hand history and counted. Over those 21 hands, 94 people saw the flop, which averages out to about 4.5 people seeing the flop per hand. That's a bit high, but hardly accounts for this odd number of monster hands.

Sample size is way too small.

GDRILEYX wins ($2.31) with (One pair, threes).
HH plz

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At one of the casinos I play at, they have a high hand of the night jackpot. They take $1 from every pot and at midnight, it gets awarded to whoever had the highest hand. In one night ( 6 hours, roughly 200 hands) it went from J's full of T's, to K's full of 8's, to K's full of Q's, to A's full of T's, to quad 9's, to quad A's, then on the very last hand before midnight, a guy made a 9 high straight flush.

Moral of the story, these things happen. Statistically, they have to happen. Eventually somewhere on some table there's gonna be 5 royal flushes dealt in succession, some guy is gonna get dealt AA 10 hands in a row, and someone is gonna lose with quads on back to back hands. It happens.

If this is FR, that means the average vpip of the table is 50%. That's not only a bit high, that's extremely high. When that many people see the flop a pair is rarely good. When everyone with any suited, connected, or paired cards see the flop and don't fold, there will be a lot of flushes, straights, and sets/boats. I mean really, out of the 21 hands only 2 did not reach showdown. That's pretty crazy as well. At more reasonable limits the flop only gets dealt under half the time, let alone actually making it to showdown.

And as mentioned you won a sizable pot with pair of 3's. Assuming it was someone chasing a draw that whiffed? I'd also like to see the HH, maybe you had a pair and a draw?

Yeah pot limit and limit hold em micro is so fustrating to play this is where most of the donkeys hang out and fish for there hand play anything they got and always end up hitting with some of the most ridiculous hands like 10 5 off and someone will say NH cmon its not a nice hand idiot never should have been in the hand very fustrating

zachvac said:

And as mentioned you won a sizable pot with pair of 3's. Assuming it was someone chasing a draw that whiffed? I'd also like to see the HH, maybe you had a pair and a draw?

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No, just my small stack with a pocket pair on the SB raising out limpers. The big stack BB put me on a steal, and raised. I figured he had an ace, and when no ace came on the flop, I called his cbet, all-in.

Yeah, he might have had a big pair and bet the same way, but he had also played A5 and A9 in ten hands since he sat down.

Stage #1363907620: Holdem Pot Limit $0.02 - 2009-04-11 04:26:33.005 (ET) [ 2009-04-11 04:26:33 ]
Table: JUPITER Dr (real money) Seat #6 is the dealer
Seat 6 - STEVYYYYY111 ($3.87 in chips)
Seat 7 - GDRILEYX ($1.25 in chips)
Seat 8 - BALLY25 ($4.40 in chips)
Seat 9 - DANNYBOY54 ($1.11 in chips)
Seat 2 - ZECARI ($0.96 in chips)
Seat 3 - JUJUPOKER ($6.65 in chips)
Seat 4 - AKRICHARD ($3.29 in chips)
Seat 5 - MEEW666 ($4.01 in chips)
GDRILEYX - Posts small blind $0.01
BALLY25 - Posts big blind $0.02
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to GDRILEYX [3h 3d]
DANNYBOY54 - Folds
ZECARI - Calls $0.02
JUJUPOKER - Folds
AKRICHARD - Calls $0.02
MEEW666 - Calls $0.02
STEVYYYYY111 - Folds
GDRILEYX - Raises $0.11 to $0.12
BALLY25 - Raises $0.40 to $0.42
ZECARI - Folds
AKRICHARD - Folds
MEEW666 - Folds
GDRILEYX - Calls $0.30
*** FLOP *** [Kh 9h 7c]
GDRILEYX - Checks
BALLY25 - Bets $0.90
GDRILEYX - All-In $0.83
BALLY25 - returned ($0.07) : not called
*** TURN *** [Kh 9h 7c] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [Kh 9h 7c 2c] [6c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GDRILEYX - Shows [3h 3d] (One pair, threes)
BALLY25 - Shows [As 5d] (ace high)
GDRILEYX Collects $2.31 from main pot

fold to his 3-bet preflop
fold on the flop

ur play is just spewey

I hate ultimate bet. I used to like it a lot and then the cheating scandals and they pretty much stiffed my friend for like 2k. i will play freerolls there and work it up to the min cashout and then cash it out and deposit it elsewhere. F UB

pantin007 said:

fold to his 3-bet preflop
fold on the flop

ur play is just spewey

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I did not solicit your opinion. If I cared what you think, I'd post for hand analysis.

that makes me think that there is summin going on with there software but i could happen anything can happen in poker but that is pretty mad 2 see all that in 21 hands i havent seen that b4 i would sugest what some other ppl sed move up stakes mabe 2 no limit it helps because not as many ppl see the flop

GDRileyx said:

I did not solicit your opinion. If I cared what you think, I'd post for hand analysis.

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what a great attitude