UB STAND UP

alotta people downing my fav site ultimatebet.com aint nobody speaking up for it. i see you in the cardschat freerolls yall gon let them down us like that.
so if you down wit UB like me and phil heelmuth post something letting me know where u at put ya screen name and imma put you on my buddy list 2

I once sat for about two hours playing on UB, i saw quads dealt no less than seven times. Does that seem high to you? Cause it does to me. UB is at best a grannie network. Dealing super hands to keep grandma happy.

The Ultimate Bet / Absolute Poker sites have been involved in 2 instances of insider cheating (that we know of), in the last year. Why would anyone still trust them with their money?

Got both AP and UB hats so cant quit now!

2 hours is statistically meaningless, as you must know, so anomalies or outliers are equally meaningless.

An English version of this post is available on request.

Love the english version..lol..lol...UB is a little too slow or me.I like fast action.Might be ok if i was on valiums or xanaxs tho..lol

A lot of people have been speaking poorly of my favorite website, UltimateBet.com and nobody is speaking good of it. I see some people in the CardsChat freerolls so how are you going to let the UltimateBet haters speak of it like that? If you like UltimateBet as much as Phil Hellmuth and I do, post in this thread with some contact information such as your screen name. If you do so, I will put you on my buddy list as well.

How accurate was I there, MissThang?

Ultimate Bet sucks. It's slow, the design is terrible, and it's so dull.

I wont down UB but it does have room to catch up to Stars and Tilt

Yes, like not having super-users and then trying to cover it all up. And then on top of that there's the crappy (just my opinion here, but the super-users is fact) interface and such.

UB still has one of the BEST http://www.cardschat.com/f13/tournament-structure-comparison-103496/ on the web, and offers the BEST rake (standard 10%) at micro limit tournaments (unlike FT and PS who charge 20-25%), and has the BEST stakes (as low as $0.20 + 0.02) for bankroll management with limited resources.

UB was my first site and it's still my favorite site.

What a company did in the past, under a different owner, shouldn't really influence how you deal with a company in the present. All these people who are rabidly anti any specific site are just going to eventually cause the downfall of every site, at least to US players.

Just remember that even PS and FT have had major problems. Either with bots, collusion or some other deal that caused them to have to refund money to players. 2+2's leader, Mason Bigmouth (or whatever his name is) has it in for UB, I guess they didn't kickback enough cash to him like Stars does.

Personally I prefer the software at UB to anywhere else. The miniview feature is fantastic, I don't need to see a "round" table, just minimize things so I can fit a bunch of tables on my screen and still be able to surf the net.

LOL at people using Ultimate Bet. They are certified by the Kahnawake indian tribe, do some research on them and decide whether or not you'd trust them with your money.

So is Full Tilt. So why do YOU play on that site?

Ultimate bet is the only site i know of that has it's bonuses tied to contributory rake and not paticipatory rake. This means you must be in the hand til the end to get any credit. This doesn't seem right to me. On most sites all you need to do is see a flop. So their bonuses are worthless.

i still think theres cheating at UB. some guy had $340 in his stack at 0.10/0.25 where the max buy in is $25 lol

I like the software, and they fork over a lot of money to players like myself trying to keep us around after the whole super user scandal.

I'm not exactly loyal to any site. As long as I can deposit/withdrawl my money easily, they give me a large amount of cash back compared to the rake I pay, and they don't hassle me, that's where I'll play.

Ultimate Bet seems rigged in my opinion, I see group 1 hands dealt almost every hand and so many bad beats compared to other sites I'm not sure but it just seems like it is rigged.

We at Kahnawake are Mohawks, and are a nation, not a tribe. The Kahnawake Gaming Commission hosts hundreds of online sites, Absolute Poker and Ultimatebet being just two. Those two are owned by Joe Norton, former chief or the Mohawks here for many years.
Are you implying that Mohawks are dishonest because we are 'indian tribe?'
If so, look at where you are playing, because chances are that your platform is 'regulated' or hosted by KGC, a trail blazer and leader in online gaming on Turtle Island.

Please tell me the "lol" means you are joking. Please.

I do like UB's tourney structure, but thats about it, even navigating through the software on the interface was a bit confusing....but then again thats because I am used to PS and FT's

Quote of a lifetime, glad I finally read it here.
Readers: Insert the name of your least-fave site at the start of this sentence, for complete 'rigged' gratification, particularly after seeing an anomaly, getting beat bad, or having a losing session... Post to as many forums as you can find, you will get sympathy I promise.

There is one table per limit that is a no maximum buyin table. So you can buyin for any amount. I've seen people drop into those tables with as much as $500 before. Personally I love to see that, they usually play way too aggressively and it's not hard to take some cash from them.

May have been under a previous owner, but it is the present ownership that was guilty of dragging it's feet in the enquiry, hoping that the allegations would run out of steam.

I hate Ultimatebet for a different reason - their minimum deposit is $25. Their minimum withdrawal? $50! Crooks

However, their bonus NEVER expires, unlike every other site where there is a time frame for clearing/earning.

Hate it when Bonuses expire, hardly ever get them...damn work

Someone mentioned that they didn't like the way UB does their bonus points, you only get credit for hands that you've actually put money into the pot.

This month I decided to see what kind of points I could get on UB, playing $25 NL. Each month, like Stars, they reset your level and you have to play back to that level again.

To get to 2nd level required 50 points. At that level you start getting their UB points at 2x, not too many other real benefits.

Next level is 500 points. If you get there you can trade the 500 pts for $50. So seems a rather good idea.

I just don't have the attention span to make it though. So far I'm averaging 10 points per day, to get to 500 you need to average approx 17 a day. If I do play a long time one day I may get close enough to make it worthwhile to try to get to 500.

As far as I can tell the 500 pts for $50 is far better than anything Stars offers for 500 points.

I chalk up lots of points at micro horse an stud there, regardless of if I see river or not. Got a huge 111% signup bonus which will take a year to go through at my rate. Huns o bucks waiting for me to grind to. At .25 .50 can realize 5 bucks bonus every 2-3 hours (2 tables).
I like it, think the bonus setup is great (no pressure to meet deadlines), and points add up to money faster than stars or tilt, with no hassle or expiration date.
BTW I already withdrew my initial deposit and am playing with UBs (and your) money now. Only wish we had more players for non-holdem games...

I've got legend status @ ultimate bet. Play the stud games. It will rain ultimate points.

Btw Makwa, what's your Ultimatebet username? Never seen anyone named Makwa playing stud there.

Ultimate Bet was my first so was what I compared everything else to. I love it and was really glad that CC hosts UB tourneys and free rolls.

They are still the only site that I have deposited real money.

When it comes to play action/look and feel I think they beat FT hands down. FT lags so incredibly badly that I regularly see the pot being pushed before the river! Even if that is a problem with my machine, that NEVER happens at UB.

I also hate the goofy avatars at various poker sites, what possible benefit is there, just wastes bandwidth, IMO.

BTW Thang, if you want to communicate you relly need someone to proof your writing. Maybe try Microsoft Word or something.

I'm Panamajoe56 at UB.

Wots yrs?

I am Kitchi Makwa there.

i still have no idea what site ultimate bet is like, i may get it if it's anything like full tilt or poker stars

I don't think Gators was reffering to the Mohawks being in any way dishonest.
However, accusations against AP and UB are a different matter altogether. With regard to the KGC being a "trail blazer and leader"...you've got to be kidding. I don't think this is an avenue you really want to go down...a case in point being their recent refusal of recognition by an entire government.
Just because the KGC host a lot of servers doesn't automatically mean they're beyond criticism. Regulators have to prove themselves in any sector of business, it would appear that so far the KGC have failed to do this.

Well, the inference was 'indian tribe,' as being untrustworty. No I don't think he meant Mohawks because he didn't even know what people he was referring to.
Yes I will go down that road any time, because KGC got online poker on the map in the early days (go back 5 years or so) and got places such as Stars going. The unique status of Kahnawake as autonomous Mohawk territory within Canada made this possible.
Of couse they are open to criticism, and I didn't say I trusted the KGC, or any other self-proclaimed authority when it comes to online gaming. But they helped get it going and the history is there.
What 'refusal of recognition by and entire government' are you referring to? If you mean feds in Canada, yes they refuse to accept Mohawk autonomy, it is an ongoing dispute. Do you want Canada to assume responsibility for governing all those servers? It would shut them down overnight.
In any case, gaming is a provincial jurisdiction here so, feds have nothing to do with it. And the whole question of who has authority, when it comes to online, has not even touched the courts yet. It will be an unholy mess when it happens, can promise you that, between Natives, feds, provinces and god knows who else. The Americans will get involved too of course.
To sum up, don't accuse 'indian tribes' of being responsible for AP and UB, and yes, the KGC is to be watched closely. But so is every other 'regulator' of online gaming, be they in Cyprus, Greece, Isle of Man or wherever. They are all operating outside 'authority' of US courts, for instance.
Today in cyberspace, you pays yr money and u takes yr chances.

This is to whoever posted the comment about it being owned by a "Tribe"! I am not sure what you think in Tampa! But here in Canada, first off they are Native Canadians, not "Indians", and here in Canada they are our First Nations, and they are a nation recognized by not only the Canadian Gov't but yours as well! Please do not disrespect them or any other Canadians! Just because the previous owners were guilty of gaming infractions, it is completely ignorant to implicate an entire nation!

Back to the point, I love UB, the only complaint I have is that they would limit there tourney's to a smaller number of players! To start with 5000, just makes it a little long to play out!