Is Tom Dwan's Bluff vs Eastgate and Greenstein the best ever?

Just finished reading this list of the top ten bluffs ever.

Dwan and Ivey unsurprisingly dominating the chart.

What does everybody think of their choice of no.1? What would everybody else's picks be?

Personally I put their no.1 at no.2 and Dwan's bluff with 72o in the top spot. That play was just crazy sick.

IMO, It has to be Moneymaker's over Farha.... More historic and made a bigger impact on Poker than any of these.

I agree with the top 2 in either order

The top 3 were all very very sick.

I think no.2 although super sick, especially in the situation of the tournament, but at the same time I think was a pretty easy read for Ivey. What is more likely, a guy trying to slowplay trips against AGGRO Ivey or out raise him with trips? It is a move even I have done in HU matches before. Do not get me wrong though, the hand was insanely sick.

No.1 was a spectacular read and play. I think it was pretty read savvy to put Greenstein on KK/AA and Eastgate on a weak 2, which it did seem like after the flop bets went it, and for Tom to take advantage of that even with his image? Incredibly sick.

No.3 and no.1 are flip flopping in my mind for which one was better. If you wanna talk about putting pressure on your opponents.. just so so sick. Even better, it was done with the 72o and he said he had it at the beginning of the hand! I'm not sure what read Tom had at the hand though, as I believe he perfectly analyzed the no.1 hand, I think in this case he was just showing pure aggression to take down the pot.

Hellmuths 27o vs Matusows KK should be in there IMO. Was sheer brilliance.

If I had to go with number #1, it has to be Phil Ivey's bluff at the Monte Carlo tournament. His read was just straight up sick, he could not beat anything, yet he 5-bet the pot. It was almost as though both players knew that the other one was weak, yet it was a game of chicken to see who had the most balls to continue the aggression. Not surprised Ivey won, the guy just has killer instincts.

I think that Ivey vs paul was the best one, who re-raise that many times with no hand. lol

The fact that Dwan put Eastgate on a weak deuce and Barry on a huge overpair and still made the play he did is ridiculously impressive. It takes a lot of nerve and guts to make the play he did in that situation. Eastgate & Barry obviously had no clue as to what Dwan had and couldn't put him on a hand so they had to release.

I actually agree with their #1 given how accurate Dwan's read on the situation seemed to be - it's one thing to put your opponents on nothing and bet but to put them on strong hands and still pull it off is super impressive.

I remember both the ones listed from the Dwan challenge being genuine coffeespit moments the first time I saw them, along with probably a few others from that series as well.

I think #8 should be a little higher up on that list. jmo

Ya'll have to remember too that these are only the top 10 "televised" bluffs.

I wonder how many uberbluffs have gone unseen to the public eye.

Hellmuth's 27 in cgs vs matusow's kks or moneymaker's bluff in wsop would prob. get top spot for me. Moneymaker's number 1 because of situation.

Well I heard belugawhale and Bart Hanson on Bart hanson's podcast over at deucescracked discuss the hand between greenstein, eastgate, and dwan. They mentioned that because dwan had a 10 in his hand on the 10-2-2 flop, he figured that no one could have pocket 10s, basically the nuts.( I no 2-2) Stack sizes were so deep that the second or third nuts weren't good enough. So dwan realized he could barrel eastgate off of the deuce because he would have to call 100k on the turn with 300k behind for dwan's potential river shove. It's dwan's ability to realize where everyone is at and how to play perfectly against there ranges that makes him so good.

Well damn Duuur is one nasty Dude, I mean that 72 was nasty and then the One with Barry and Peter was also pretty sweet

OzExorcist said:

I actually agree with their #1 given how accurate Dwan's read on the situation seemed to be - it's one thing to put your opponents on nothing and bet but to put them on strong hands and still pull it off is super impressive.

I remember both the ones listed from the Dwan challenge being genuine coffeespit moments the first time I saw them, along with probably a few others from that series as well.

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I think Durr bluffed that spot for one reason and one reason only.

Eastgate called a raise on river with trips in a trips vs trips situation. When Eastgate called and flipped over a better hand Durrs face said it all "how can I loose he just called"

Barry probably has a big hand (AA as it turns out) and Eastgate who has been playing tight and fairly weak cold calls and from the blinds a deuce is a definite option.

Durrs raise makes perfect sence. Barry has to fold, he is sandwiched inbetween Durr and Eastgate he cant be sure what Eastgate will do.

Durrs raise is threatening Eastgates whole stack and although he has trips, its likely weak trips and Eastgate has already shown he dosent want to put a lot of money in with a potentially domininated hand. So Durrs raise is quite likely to take the pot down.

I really believe if Eastgate had raised the river in the earlier hand Durr would not have bluffed there, nor would he have tried to bluff a guy like Eli Elezra.

So unless Easgate had a FH or maybe A2/K2 Durr is very confident he will lay the hand down.

OzExorcist said:

I actually agree with their #1 given how accurate Dwan's read on the situation seemed to be - it's one thing to put your opponents on nothing and bet but to put them on strong hands and still pull it off is super impressive.

I remember both the ones listed from the Dwan challenge being genuine coffeespit moments the first time I saw them, along with probably a few others from that series as well.

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The question is would that bluff have worked on Stu Ungar or would he have shoved over the top just to protect his equity with ten high?

I think you're biased!

I think Ivey's 5-bet shove with 52o in HSP last year is the sickest play I've seen. It was the type of hand where everyone knows everyone else has nothing but this isn't a tournament where you already locked up a huge score, it's real money and Ivey really can't think that Lex's 4-betting to fold very often.

I had one the other day that was pretty sick. Probably not in the top ten ever though.

It's almost feels like Tom Dwan is playing a different game. The plays are perfectly done. It just shows that he knows how his opponents play, and can exploit it in the right situation.

The #4 on the list however just feels sick on every level to me. I don't even know how to put it into words, and Ivey thinking about calling for 10+ minutes just makes it all the more worthwhile.

engman said:

Hellmuth's 27 in cgs vs matusow's kks or moneymaker's bluff in wsop would prob. get top spot for me. Moneymaker's number 1 because of situation.

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yeah Moneymaker's situation and opponent

but then again there is always a caveat ... Moneymaker was an unknown and naturally was carding extremely well ... Farha had to think ,,, i'm better than this guy and i'm not putting those chips in no matter what my instinct ... i can wear him down later

in what game did dwann bluff them and for how much?

He's such a sicko, absolutely no respect for money - he's so young too! Crazy.

the best bluff ever is phill ivey vs tom dwan this was in hight stakes poker season 6 when tom dwan bluffed phil ivey off 676 thousaned pot whith 9 hight vs pair of sixes on the river that phil ivey made

Only got to watch a few, will have to check the rest lata.