Time to give up on PT3

This is cut and pasted from a recent post on the Poker Tracker Forum. Hope it's allowed.

How do I create graphs in PT3

Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:30 am
Hello, how does one create a simple graph for "BB Won" for a tournament, in PT3? In PT2 there was a graph button and you just clicked it and configured the graph. In PT3 I can create reports but do I graph a series of values? Is there documentation for creating graphs?
Thanks.

greedysoul Posts: 5 Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:41 pm Top
Re: How do I create graphs in PT3

Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:58 am
In PT3 you just need to go to the Graphs tab. If you want tournament graphs, make sure you're on the Tournaments tab. At the moment you can only graph money won for tournaments played, but we are planning on expanding the options so that you can graph pretty much anything you would like, unfortunately I don't know when those features will be available.

kraada Moderator Posts: 5368 Joined: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:32 am Top


Re: How do I create graphs in PT3



Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:00 am

, thanks, I thought I was missing something obvious.OK then

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PT3 has been out for over a year now and to be honest, I want my money back. 13 months after charging people for a product that's supposed to be an upgrade, the fact is, it is still not as good as PT2.

"we are planning on expanding the options so that you can graph pretty much anything you would like, unfortunately I don't know when those features will be available."

This has been the the answer to too many legitimate questions for 2 long.

"thanks, I thought I was missing something obvious.OK then"

OK THEN?

Are we friggin DOOR MATTS! We PAID for this?
WHERE'S THE F'KING OUTRAGE!
I'm tired of this.
I'm tired of the system crashes.
I'm tired of the disappearing stats
I'm tired of having to start and close PT3 6 or 7 times before it actually loads.
I'm tired of not being able to make a damn positional graph.
I'm tired of inadaquate reports
I'm tired of a piece of crap software that's only good for Hold'em and that's debatable.
And I'm SOOO tired of listening to those stale promises that PT3 will someday be the tool that we all thought we were paying for.

Time to wake up and smell the coffee. It's NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!

As far as technical issues are concerned like cashes and stats disappearing.. I have to say, for me, those bugs were ironed out very soon after the release.

As for features not being added in a timely fashion.. I have to agree with you.. after a year there doesn't seem to be any light at the end of the tunnel.

PT3 is a fantastic product with potentially unlimited potential... but if the programmers don't get their act together in the upcoming months.. I may be switching to HEM.

Stu_Ungar said:

I may be switching to HEM.

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I already did. Best course of action, imo.

Egon Towst said:

I already did. Best course of action, imo.

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+1

I have neither HEM or PT, but after reading up on 'em some, I have to say I'm leaning toward HEM. I'm not sure if PT3 has much over PT2?

I have used both and I much prefer HEM.

eh have you patched up to date because i agree pt3 was horrible at launch but i've had no issue with it at all in the last 6 months or so.

im in this predicament at the moment, i switched to mac pro early december, and havent been using pt since, as it is PC ONLY! (mac version was claimed to be in production early 08! and this year pt3 for mac will be created when the issues are less, BS imo)

since i switched i purchased Poker Copilot, its nice and simple, and it finds your hands without you telling it to which i was impressed by. also it updates automatically after every hand.

set me back $49 tho, and considering i payed what $89 for pt am i spending too much on my stats!? nah its paid for itself many times over.

Dorkus Malorkus said:

eh have you patched up to date because i agree pt3 was horrible at launch but i've had no issue with it at all in the last 6 months or so.

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Vista?
Even if the bugs were worked out it's still not a legitimate upgrade.

I tried once to install PT2..Never happened, and I got no useable info from it at all. I applied for, and was extended an invitation to be on eof the Alpha testers for PT3. I didn't take them up on the offer because in Dec of 07 they wanted ring players. However I was there at the release of the first beta. So for me, the current generation of trackers is the only generation.

While there are a few things I would love to see in PT3, there are probably a gazillion things I have not even explored yet. It could easily be that the things I want already exist in PT3. Last I heard, HEM wasn't good for tourneys. I'm tourney oriented, so if that still holds true, the HEM is not an option for me. Plus, I was awarded one of the free PT3 packages last year for my help in their development. I thought it was a fluke, but one little suggestion I made solved a shitload of problems for them.

Once they started covering Cereus, I was complete. All the sites I regularly play are covered. I'm a reasonably happy camper, and I've got STATS ON YOU!!!!!

This is no knock at all on HEM. Nor is it any promo for PT3 but I'm content to grow with PT3 as they continue to evolve. I'm sure the HEM camp will say the same thing.

Bottom line is both these are way easier to install than their predecessors, and apparently both support staffs seem committed to stick around till most all of their customers are happy.

Four Dogs said:

Vista?
Even if the bugs were worked out it's still not a legitimate upgrade.

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If been using PT3 on Vista for sometime now with no problems(not counting all the times vista crashed for non PT3 reason ).

I've got PT3 with Vista and no performance problems at all (that's right ladies).

However there's some features of HEM that people talk about that I'd like. The absence of an EV line on the graph is probably a blessing in disguise and stops me going insane, but I'd like what appears to be the better functionality of the configurable reports in HEM.

Do you know if it's possible to convert a PT3 database to HEM Egon?

Irexes said:

I've got PT3 with Vista and no performance problems at all (that's right ladies).

However there's some features of HEM that people talk about that I'd like. The absence of an EV line on the graph is probably a blessing in disguise and stops me going insane, but I'd like what appears to be the better functionality of the configurable reports in HEM.

Do you know if it's possible to convert a PT3 database to HEM Egon?

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I saw on another forum that pt3 would be adding ev lines and other graph fetures sometime in the forseeable future.
Dont know how much credence to give the source thou...

Yup, it says it's on the list of things on the development schedule, but no timescale. I'm not holding my breath

I own both HEM and PT3. I only use PT3. I've had zero problems with PT3 for at least 8 months.

So I guess what I'm saying is try both, and buy the one you like.

What's the actual purpose of this thread anyway?

Irexes said:

Do you know if it's possible to convert a PT3 database to HEM Egon?

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It is definitely possible (and quite easy) to convert a PT2 database, because I did so when I made the change. I assume the same holds good for PT3.

I use PT3 with Vista and I haven't had any problems at all in as long as I can remember. I've never used HEM so I can't comment on that but PT3 works great for me and it's only going to get better with more and more features.

Irexes said:

Do you know if it's possible to convert a PT3 database to HEM Egon?

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I don't think you can directly convert, at least I couldn't when I switched. Does PT3 handle hand exporting yet? (I know when I used it, it didn't) You could just export all your hands from PT3 and import them in to HEM. Would take a while depending on your DB size, but it might be your only bet.

FWIW, I absolutely love HEM. Their staff is amazing, they answer all your questions quickly and are constantly adding new features. I've only ever had one problem with HEM so far, which was quickly resolved. HEM is so customizable, you can change any of the multitude of reports to display basically any stat you want. The Filter option is ridiculously amazing and easy to use. The only issues I have is you can't edit the stats displayed in the sessions tab and you can't edit the graph (like in PT2). Other than that though, I think it's by far the best tracking software you could get. And let's face it, the Players Tab in HEM is basically like cheating when studying regs you face a lot.