Originally Posted by rifflemao
I guess the question I've been most interested in is: can a person of average or slightly above average intelligence learn enough about poker to be successful (win life-changing sums)? D
I think I made a mistake when I labeled this thread "Talent v. Hard Work" Its not really a question of "talent" its more an issue of aptitude.
Lets say that there was a minimum to get into the NBA. You had to be 6'6", no shorter. That is the only requirement for entry. Well now we have a threshold - if you are tall enough you have a shot. If you are not tall enough you do not. being 6'11" doesn't give you an advantage over 6'6", because it is a threshold. It's just a minimum requirement.
Lets expand that example to poker. To be a winning player you must be smart enough to at least understand pot odds
. You need to be clever enough to put your opponent on a solid range. And you must be disciplined enough to fold in tough spots. That is the threshold. To be a winning player you must do those things. The degree to which you can do them will dictate what level of poker you can play at.
No amount of hardwork is going to make you smart enough to understand math. You could teach someone with a 75 IQ all day and they will not get algebra. No amount of effort is going to make you good at reading tells. You either have the ability to recognize facial expressions or you don't. Someone with autism could never get it. You must have self control. You can teach yourself to be better, but if you don't have the capacity, you just don't have it.
These are all just examples. But, whether you like it or not, if you don't have the capacity to be a winning player - THE MINIMUM THRESHOLD - you will never win at poker. You will only lose because you don't have the base attributes to make you a skilled poker player.
Once you meet the minimum its hard work. You will then work as hard as you can and you will realize the maximum of your potential. Your maximum could be beating 10nl forever, and never beating 25nl. Thats okay. You just have to recognize it and accept it.
Capacity plus hard work is what makes an elite poker player. anything less than the maximum of both will leave you somewhere else.