Survive this month with $10 left, please help make a decision

onizuka · Nov 15, 2010

Only $10 left on my FTP account. I like to play at FTP but I resist to deposit more, what I want right now is playing poker for fun everyday until next month at least 100 hands each day. I have 2 plans, please help me choose the right one.

1. Spend 1 buck each day for the next 10 days (as my balance only $10) at Daily Dollar 20.00 ET. I'm not a good player, I'm not a decent player, so I'm happy if I can reach ITM which pay double my buy in (1080 places paid)

or

2. Play cash table $0.01/$0.02 or $0.02/$0.05 at happy hours trying to grind it up or at least keep break even at 100 hands minimum a day

As I say, I'm not a good player or a decent player. I'm a bad player who want to learn to play better. Also I want to enjoy playing poker everyday until next month without going busto.

Please help.

Thank you
onizuka

AtiFCOD · Nov 15, 2010

Hello!
Are you a japan? I'm just curious.

If you think you should progress in poker, play in freerolls. There's nothing to lose in freerolls, but you can gather a lot of experience. Maybe the opponents won't be cool players but you will learn a lot of typical poker situations.

cazique · Nov 15, 2010

Play the 10c $1,000 Guarantee Tourney. Add 2NL to that and you'll have a fair amount of bang for this 10 bucks.

swingro · Nov 15, 2010

cazique said:
Play the 10c $1,000 Guarantee Tourney. Add 2NL to that and you'll have a fair amount of bang for this 10 bucks.

Yep. The 10c tourney might be the best . But at the same time read a book of poker. Start with "Little green book" by Phil Gordon. You will find it easy to read and it is about tourneys.

Tom1559 · Nov 15, 2010

Can I suggest that you keep the $10 intact and consider playing the FT play chip games. The lower levels are very poor but if you can get yourself up to 10K in play chips the games become a lot more serious and are pretty good games. In fact in my experience once you get to that level the players seem to have more regard for their chips than some players have for their money in the lower buy in games. Set yourself a target of 500K in chips and then play the FT $40 game which usually has around 40 players in it.

I think PS have a similar set up except you can sell your play chips.

In the UK PS run a play chip league which runs every night with monthly cash prizes for the top 100 in the league. Not sure if they do this for other countries as well.

Good luck.

mrmonkey · Nov 15, 2010

Onizuka, I think if you are interested in playing for fun you should think and decide what kind of game you most enjoy. MTT like the Daily Dollar and cash ring games are very different types of poker.

If you answer you prefer MTT, then I think you should maybe try the freeroll route until you can get a bigger bankroll to allow for strict BRM. $10 will not last long in MTT, unless you get extremely lucky. You would probably need at least 100 buyins for a tourney like the Daily Dollar to prevent yourself from going broke and to be able to give yourself a chance at seeing if you can turn consistent profit.

If you are serious about making the most of the $10 you have now however, I think grinding .01/.02 (2nl) shortstack holdem during happy hours is the safest way. It is the closest you can get to practicing responsible BRM on a $10 roll. If you buy in full to the 2nl shortstack games (.80 buyin), that would give you about 12 buyins. This isn't really enough (usually you would need 20-25 buyins), but if you just play extremely tight and don't let yourself get on tilt when you get sucked out on (and you WILL get sucked out on) it should be enough to profit off the softer opponents.

onizuka · Nov 15, 2010

AtiFCOD said:
Hello!
Are you a japan? I'm just curious.

If you think you should progress in poker, play in freerolls. There's nothing to lose in freerolls, but you can gather a lot of experience. Maybe the opponents won't be cool players but you will learn a lot of typical poker situations.

Hi AtiFCOD, no onizuka just my nick name on forum

cazique said:
Play the 10c $1,000 Guarantee Tourney. Add 2NL to that and you'll have a fair amount of bang for this 10 bucks.

cazique, do you know how to find that 10c tourney? I never found that type of tourney, maybe it's my filter, need to search more on FTP

swingro said:
Yep. The 10c tourney might be the best . But at the same time read a book of poker. Start with "Little green book" by Phil Gordon. You will find it easy to read and it is about tourneys.

Yeah, so far I try to read every posts here on Golden Archive, noted that book, I'll try to buy that book soon

Tom1559 said:
Can I suggest that you keep the $10 intact and consider playing the FT play chip games. The lower levels are very poor but if you can get yourself up to 10K in play chips the games become a lot more serious and are pretty good games. In fact in my experience once you get to that level the players seem to have more regard for their chips than some players have for their money in the lower buy in games. Set yourself a target of 500K in chips and then play the FT $40 game which usually has around 40 players in it.

I think PS have a similar set up except you can sell your play chips.

In the UK PS run a play chip league which runs every night with monthly cash prizes for the top 100 in the league. Not sure if they do this for other countries as well.

Good luck.

This is the best answer so far, it makes me think "Aha!" I never know play chips can be valued something, but I don't know if I can turn 1K to 500K play chips, but it dont hurt my bankroll to try, so I'll give it a go. Thank you very much Tom1559

mrmonkey said:
Onizuka, I think if you are interested in playing for fun you should think and decide what kind of game you most enjoy. MTT like the Daily Dollar and cash ring games are very different types of poker.

If you answer you prefer MTT, then I think you should maybe try the freeroll route until you can get a bigger bankroll to allow for strict BRM. $10 will not last long in MTT, unless you get extremely lucky. You would probably need at least 100 buyins for a tourney like the Daily Dollar to prevent yourself from going broke and to be able to give yourself a chance at seeing if you can turn consistent profit.

If you are serious about making the most of the $10 you have now however, I think grinding .01/.02 (2nl) shortstack holdem during happy hours is the safest way. It is the closest you can get to practicing responsible BRM on a $10 roll. If you buy in full to the 2nl shortstack games (.80 buyin), that would give you about 12 buyins. This isn't really enough (usually you would need 20-25 buyins), but if you just play extremely tight and don't let yourself get on tilt when you get sucked out on (and you WILL get sucked out on) it should be enough to profit off the softer opponents.

Yeah I admit it's not enough buyins to grinding even at the lowest stake

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Okay, I just trying my #2 option, playing 50 hands at 2NL and make 40c profit with my quads 8 so far so good

bgarric · Nov 15, 2010

cazique said:
Play the 10c $1,000 Guarantee Tourney. Add 2NL to that and you'll have a fair amount of bang for this 10 bucks.

I think this is your best option. I realize that MTT and cash games are very different, but personally I prefer MTT. I feel like I get way more hands per dollar. If you play the 10 cent tourney, you could play every day for an entire month and still have $7 left (this is assuming you win nothing the entire time!). In one tournament you may get 4 or 5 hours worth of play off of your .10.

As far as tables, if you try and sit at the tables for 4 or 5 hours, you may have lost all $10 at that point.

The play chips are a good idea, however to get to 500K would take a very significant amount of time, and in my experience, it's just too painful because they are PLAY chips and most of the time it's just a shovefest because they can reload their cihps every 5 minutes.

Good luck to you. I look forward to hearing about your progress!

zebadie · Nov 15, 2010

when i get low on BR i tend to play some matrix sng because you play 4 tables for the $1 +20 or $2 +25 so really its like playing four 25c tables but you get extra chances to win, smaller wins but you get a massive chance of making a small profit each time and playing four at once allows you to get sucked out on once or even twice and maybe even a mistake or two but you always have a chance of making profit.

You can place bottom 3 in three of the tables and do well in one and still make a small profit.

If you dont like that idea i think what your doing now is just fine too.

CistaCista · Nov 15, 2010

Play 2NL, I will be there for you to steal my $5 today!

Try to find your daily regional freeroll on FTP, that's where I got the money to play 2NL. And the CC freeroll is also on FTP i believe?

absoluthamm · Nov 15, 2010

zebadie said:
when i get low on BR i tend to play some matrix sng because you play 4 tables for the $1 +20 or $2 +25 so really its like playing four 25c tables but you get extra chances to win, smaller wins but you get a massive chance of making a small profit each time and playing four at once allows you to get sucked out on once or even twice and maybe even a mistake or two but you always have a chance of making profit.

You can place bottom 3 in three of the tables and do well in one and still make a small profit.

If you dont like that idea i think what your doing now is just fine too.

With the matrix games you are getting raped with the rake, paying 20% rake. Really, unless you are consistently cashing in all of the games and the matrix bonus, you're losing to the house because of the rake.

mrmonkey said:
If you are serious about making the most of the $10 you have now however, I think grinding .01/.02 (2nl) shortstack holdem during happy hours is the safest way. It is the closest you can get to practicing responsible BRM on a $10 roll. If you buy in full to the 2nl shortstack games (.80 buyin), that would give you about 12 buyins. This isn't really enough (usually you would need 20-25 buyins), but if you just play extremely tight and don't let yourself get on tilt when you get sucked out on (and you WILL get sucked out on) it should be enough to profit off the softer opponents.

Buying in at a short table does not change up how many buy-ins you have. For 2NL, whether you are at a short stack, deep stack or regular table, $2.00, or 100BBs, is a buy-in. So with $10, you have 5 buy-ins...no getting around that.

mrmonkey · Nov 15, 2010

absoluthamm said:
Buying in at a short table does not change up how many buy-ins you have. For 2NL, whether you are at a short stack, deep stack or regular table, $2.00, or 100BBs, is a buy-in. So with $10, you have 5 buy-ins...no getting around that.

Ah I see -- I didn't realize this before but now it makes sense. I had been doing this before whenever I get cash from a freeroll and buy-in at the shortstack 2nl, only to encounter a series of suckouts and coolers that left me tilted and broke. I figured that buying in short on the shortstack table would give twenty .40c "buyins" at $8, but it makes sense now that this is not the case because buying in short you never have full equity for your winning hands and the blinds are a hugely disproportionate size of your buyin. I knew something was wrong, but wasn't sure why.

I didn't realize it was for this reason, but intuitively after busting out 3 times trying to get my freeroll winnings going anywhere I've decided to build at least a $50 bankroll via freerolls before putting any of it at stake in real money games. This way I would finally be appropriately rolled for 2nl.

Also, GO CUBS! What a disappointing 2010 campaign, eh?

absoluthamm · Nov 15, 2010

mrmonkey said:
Ah I see -- I didn't realize this before but now it makes sense. I had been doing this before whenever I get cash from a freeroll and buy-in at the shortstack 2nl, only to encounter a series of suckouts and coolers that left me tilted and broke. I figured that buying in short on the shortstack table would give twenty .40c "buyins" at $8, but it makes sense now that this is not the case because buying in short you never have full equity for your winning hands and the blinds are a hugely disproportionate size of your buyin. I knew something was wrong, but wasn't sure why.

I didn't realize it was for this reason, but intuitively after busting out 3 times trying to get my freeroll winnings going anywhere I've decided to build at least a $50 bankroll via freerolls before putting any of it at stake in real money games. This way I would finally be appropriately rolled for 2nl.

Also, GO CUBS! What a disappointing 2010 campaign, eh?

It seems like you have a good understanding of brm, you just don't follow it. Start following more of a strict BRM plan and you will be in a much better place.

Also, no GO CUBS.... I in fact hate the Cubs and am a fan of the Real Chicago baseball team

. The avatar is of a goat screwing a cub(because of the whole curse of the goat). As far as the 2010 season, I see it as no different as any other for Cub fans for the last 100 years as they have all been disappointments, lol

spiderman637 · Nov 15, 2010

Loved reading two phrases in ur last sentence...Know what it is?
"want to learn" & "enjoy playing poker every day"
Well as for ur question, i recommend Daily Dollar !!! Good luck mate !!!

Extreme Fishing · Nov 16, 2010

You could play some lbt satellites for about 70c i think?

SavagePenguin · Nov 16, 2010

If you are a losing player there is no such thing as proper bankroll management. Proper Bankroll management is to keep a winning player afloat during unlucky runs. A losing player will continue to lose it. If you are a losing player your goal should be to get the maximum amount of enjoyment out of that $10. Your bankroll is not a way of making money, but more like buying a ticket to ride a roller coaster. It is worth the price, not because you expect to win money, but because you expect to have a fun time. That being said, just do what you want to do with the money. If the Daily Dollar is fun, do that. If you like ring game, play them. Enjoy yourself.

AtiFCOD · Nov 16, 2010

onizuka said:
Hi AtiFCOD, no onizuka just my nick name on forum

Lol, ok. I just wanted to know why are there so few japans in poker rooms but it continues to be a mystery.

konatus · Nov 16, 2010

When I $ 10, rather read a book, play the $ 0,10 tourney or 2NL with sparingly.

cheermom48017 · Nov 16, 2010

Daily dollar

The daily dollar is a good tourney but if the time (1:30 AM where i am at) is not a problem i think the fergusons are your best value,esepcially if your goal is to just cash they usually pay out about 15% of the field, and there is no rake just $1! With 10 buyins you should be able to cash 1 or 2 times even if just by luck if you are just an average player!Good luck at the tables!

freeringo · Nov 16, 2010

your best option would be $2 double ups and then when you get to $40 increase to $4-5 double ups

davem86 · Nov 16, 2010

I would say hold on tight to your money and stick around here!

Once you become eligible for the freerolls you can get a decent understanding of poker...

LOTS of great players here that will help you improve your game!

Keep grinding in the freerolls and playchips until you get about $30 then you can grind your way to some real money!

Once i reached $10+ before I blew it at cash games so stay away from them until you have proper BR...if u get the itch to play a real $$$ game play the 30c Daily Dollar sattys you shouldnt go bust there!

GOODLUCK WHATEVER YOU DECIDE 2 DO!

Extreme Fishing · Nov 16, 2010

freeringo said:
your best option would be $2 double ups and then when you get to $40 increase to $4-5 double ups

Fulltilt doesn't do Doubles mate.

5TR8 FLUSH · Nov 16, 2010

cazique said:
Play the 10c $1,000 Guarantee Tourney. Add 2NL to that and you'll have a fair amount of bang for this 10 bucks.

I also agree that the 10c tourney's which start at 5:35pm ET everyday is your best way to go, and also attempting to play those 500K play chip $40 tourney's is another good way to go. You can also multi-table the 1/2c tables (shallow stacks) with as many tables you feel comfortable with.

GL in whatever you shove to do and hope to hear your $10 lasted you the rest of the month or that your doing well with over $10.

forsakenone · Nov 16, 2010

back when i have 10$ i decided to play cash games, went on google for some strategy, made some reading here and there and also found cardschat but thats another story.

in the end i decided to buy in for 1$ only, at 10 tables, nit the hell up, and if possible try to get it in preflop with AK AQ AA KK QQ JJ sometimes TT or 99.

of course this was very risky since i had such a small bankroll but i got lucky enough to make it out of that danger zone. also i promised myself that if i lose those original 10$ i would stop playing, happy i didn't lose.

onizuka · Nov 17, 2010

Here is the update progress of my $10

Yesterday I start my day with Daily Dollar and lost far before ITM, then I enter $3.00+$0.30 Knockout 90 man SnG and surprisingly I did well and manage to the final table and finished at 5th collected around $24 plus 3x$0.50 for knocking 3 peoples.

Then I said in my heart "okay that's it for today, I should stop while on the top" skip skip but I can't do that, I play 10NL cash game with max buy in (not short stack

) play only premium hands.

After lot of hands fold, I got AK suited, raised to 3x BB, all fold except 1 person. Flop K K 9, I bet then villain push all in, and I analyse first, no flush draw, all good then I call, guess what is the river? 7 Q

... And villain hold KQ. Blah, lose my hard earned $10 from MTT!!!

Survive this month with $10 left, please help make a decision

onizuka

Enthusiast

AtiFCOD

Legend

cazique

Rock Star

swingro

Legend

Tom1559

Legend

mrmonkey

Visionary

onizuka

Enthusiast

bgarric

Rock Star

zebadie

Rock Star

CistaCista

Visionary

absoluthamm

<==Poker Face

mrmonkey

Visionary

absoluthamm

<==Poker Face

spiderman637

RIP Buck

Extreme Fishing

Visionary

SavagePenguin

Put the win in penguin

AtiFCOD

Legend

konatus

Rock Star

cheermom48017

Rock Star

freeringo

2019-20-21 League Champs

davem86

Legend

Extreme Fishing

Visionary

5TR8 FLUSH

Legend

forsakenone

Legend

onizuka

Enthusiast

About CardsChat

Our Community

Our Site