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So I'm new to this and I'm in the process of reading Hellmuth's book and i think I've caught a few small errors (typo's), one of which has me confused. When he is referring to limit holdem strategy and says three-betting or two-betting or 'makes it three bets to go' is he referring to one bet as being equivalent to the small blind? So three bets to go in a $5-$10 limit game would be $15? I only ask because in one example he says in a 5-10 game pre-flop the person under the gun raises it and then you (the reader) re-raise and make it three bets to go. Based upon a separate example it doesn't jive, wouldn't re-raising it make it 4 bets to go ($20)? Or is it three bets because the big blind and then two raises? Thanks in advance.
 
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Phil Helmuth has authored/co-authored at least 3 books. Maybe more. To which are you referring?
 
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gembob13 said:
So I'm new to this and I'm in the process of reading Hellmuth's book and i think I've caught a few small errors (typo's), one of which has me confused. When he is referring to limit holdem strategy and says three-betting or two-betting or 'makes it three bets to go' is he referring to one bet as being equivalent to the small blind? So three bets to go in a $5-$10 limit game would be $15? I only ask because in one example he says in a 5-10 game pre-flop the person under the gun raises it and then you (the reader) re-raise and make it three bets to go. Based upon a separate example it doesn't jive, wouldn't re-raising it make it 4 bets to go ($20)? Thanks in advance.
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gembob13 said:
So I'm new to this and I'm in the process of reading Hellmuth's book and i think I've caught a few small errors (typo's), one of which has me confused. When he is referring to limit holdem strategy and says three-betting or two-betting or 'makes it three bets to go' is he referring to one bet as being equivalent to the small blind? So three bets to go in a $5-$10 limit game would be $15? I only ask because in one example he says in a 5-10 game pre-flop the person under the gun raises it and then you (the reader) re-raise and make it three bets to go. Based upon a separate example it doesn't jive, wouldn't re-raising it make it 4 bets to go ($20)? Or is it three bets because the big blind and then two raises? Thanks in advance.
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He's referring to three bets the size of the small blind. And it's "3 bets" because anyone who isn't the small blind now needs to pay three bets to see the flop.
 
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You don't play limit, huh? In a $5 - $10 game The BB (and only betting increment) is $5 preflop and after the flop. $10 is the only betting increment after the turn and river. So a three bet preflop would make it $15 to go. The SB in a $5-10 game is $2.

As for Helmuth's book, never read any of them. Any good?
 
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THanks for the help. Can't really tell you if the book's any good though cause I can't say I know much about poker and haven't played enough yet...
 
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Play Poker Like the Pros....I actually can't stand him, but he seems to get by in poker all right....
 
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ALL of Hellmuth's books and videos are good.......if you're new to the game and don't know much. And Play Poker Like the Pros is no exception.

That being said, now my honest opinion. I hated this book. Phil is an incredible poker player, but his instructional stuff comes across as self promotional CRAP that caters to the simple minded.

For good entry level reading, look into Tom McEvoy. He's written like a dozen books, alone and with various collaborators,and he knows his poop. And imparts it in a coherent, easy to read manner without all the smugness and smartassery(?). He won't teach you to dodge bullets, or how to win them all, but I've never read one his books without learning something useful.
 
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reglardave i agree...if u wanna read a well writen poker book u should def read tom mcevoys. he has the most out and they r all great.
 
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if u really wanna improve ur game tho...there is no better learning experience then actually playing the game
 
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reglardave did u really win those tourneys? cuz those r my fav games besides no limit hold em
 
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That is the best thing you could do is get a book, also ask questions in a forum like this. I have read some books, but not any of his as of yet. When you start playing more you will be able to understand more. At least I know with me it is the case.
After you apply some things you can use, you will notice and understand some more after you reread the ones you didn't quite understand.
Good luck to you.
After getting info on the basics, you will find your own style. You shouldn't try to exactly copy what you read.
 
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I appreciate the help, I'll check into those books and I am playing as much as I can afford to now...
 
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reglardave said:
That being said, now my honest opinion. I hated this book. Phil is an incredible poker player, but his instructional stuff comes across as self promotional CRAP that caters to the simple minded.
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Exactly!


Phil Gordon's little books are very practical and good IMO.

Any serious player has to at some point read Sklansky's "Theory of Poker"

And OP, sorry about my 2nd post, it was directed towards Phil Helmuth. :)
 
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