strange concept in poker I use to be so bad that I was Very Good....

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When i first started out playing I was just a kid who liked to gamble early 20's Enjoyed roulette in the casino and to me poker was just $30.00 / $40.00 spent on comparison to maybe $200 , $300 on roulette

so from my perspective my attitude was if I lose I lose ive gambled for 4 hours and spent a hell of alot less than on poker than i could in 30 minutes roulette.

So as you do pretty much clueless on the game I thought its all about bluffing so i completely based my game on just bluffing, looking for players to bluff spots to bluff... my cards were irrelevent, I often acted on instinct and 80%
of the time I would be right even if I had a poor hand I could call an all in pre flop if i felt it and win more than I lost with a dominate holding....

after a few months I came up with abasic theory if i haven't been re-raised by the turn or sometimes the river in a big pot the players are weak and very likely to fold to a huge bet or an all in.... This is pretty much true in soft games, as you go up levels obviously a good player will start calling you down to get you to push on the river/
But yea.....
this is what I did every tournament I would push people off hands with stupidly oversized bets, and If I picked up what I thought was a good hand (back then) , (any Ace any pair above 4 any broad way, I'd just hammer them pref flop or on the flop and hope for the best...
I made 1k in my first month in casino and 1k in my first month online,
then I played $2-4 with very little experience actually did ok got to 2k and lost it all in one game at $5-10 It might of even been $10-20 Briefly.

my confidence was shot as i was playing on scared money. I was in such a rush to get it back I started playing with very little money available trying to grind out $5.00 sit in gos with no more than 15.00 buy ins,

Now 4-5 years later I've studied read and groomed my game, into an optimal tight aggressive, player and only recently stopped playing turbos and managed my bankroll realisiticly to start making a profit on average 8 in 10 cashed 1 table sit n go's...

but I look back and I Honestly think If I could get back to that wreckless approach but with skill and deception on my side there may be potential one day to become a very, VERY skilled player, in 2,3,4,5 years or more
 
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wreckless approaches lead to wreckfull results. If youve read and learned things throughout the years, you must understand by now that your wins from back in the day were pure luck and not too many people are going to let you run over them anymore in todays poker environment.

Leave those days behind and keep studying and learning in order to be able to use those extra moves "at the right times".
 
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so use that strategy on a short term basis on irregular intervals....

for example - in live play - wreckless the first ten min...and minutes 50-60 ...and 60-90 and 120-130 and 180-190 etc
 
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I play in a few charitable poker events each year and you get all kinds of players from sharks to people who have played 3 times there whole life,the toughest ones are the ones who dont know anything about playing, you cant make them fold to a bluff, and they will hold on to A 4 because they hit the 4 an then they will suckout on the turn or river, but yea they eventually bust out because they held on to that A 4 ,poker is just like any other thing in life if you want to get better you got to learn as much about it as you can, you'll just be better off!!!
 
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There's definitely something to be said for having intuition while playing poker. I remember reading an article a long time ago where Daniel Negreanu sat at 1/2 live table with unlimited buy in and wouldn't look at his cards for the entire session so just he could play completely based on feel. However, that was probably 6-7 years ago and poker has come a long way since then. Like another poster said, wreckless play does eventually lead to wreckless results. Almost anybody that has been idolized in poker for their relentless aggression is a fish the high stakes games. Having a balanced game, proper bankroll management and tilt control are the most important aspects of a poker players game, as well as a relentless desire for learning. Gl to you
 
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I believe oyu have to read your opponents if you will will play like this because even a fish will call a big bet or go all in. aggression s key but it must be timed right
 
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poker is alot more fun when you dont have to win. when its your only pay check the badbeats are much more painful and your game could suffer. just remember to have fun, and that old game might return
 
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It sounds to me like you didn't completely suck in the beginning. You talked about paying attention to the situations and to your opponents and playing without fear. These are good things. It's hard to make big hands in poker and it's hard to call multiple streets without them, thats why an agro style of play can work. Fold equity is a beautiful thing! Obviously adding a bit of refinement to your game will help, but don't assume everything you were doing in the beginning was terrible. You can't always play super agro and do well. You gotta know when (and have the discipline) to play tight when the situation calls for it too, but having a loose/aggressive gear in your arsenal is a good thing.
 
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It does seem like a somewhat odd concept. However, it's not that hard for me to imagine it being true. Because it's often hard to put them on a hand, unorthodox players present a special difficulty, especially when they have a strategy. In fact when I first started playing online, I used to play the type of hands that you see bingo players limp in with. But unlike bingo players, I was not content to limp in and see a flop with half the table and hope to get lucky. I actually had a strategy based on the concept of isolation.

Basically, I would try to isolate a single player and see the flop heads up. If I could see the flop heads up, I would play any two against anyone, then try to outplay them after the flop. People would throw fits. But you couldn't convince me that I played bad when I just took half your stack. You could tell me that A-J was a much better hand that 8-5. I would say "It's a better starting hand".

The thing to me was that I had started reading poker books and watching training videos, as well as visiting strategy forums. Everyone seemed to be suggesting the same things. It didn't make sense to me that we should all play the same way. It would be to easy to figure me out, the way I was able to figure other players out. I would tell people that just because I didn't play by the book didn't mean that I hadn't read it. But the one thing that someone did convince me of was that it was a good strategy to play tight early in a tourney, then to loosen up in the middle, and then play tighter as the bubble approached. So I started playing tight/aggressive early on, and then switching to my iso strategy. Over time I came to realize that while a lot of people claim to play tight/aggressive, most of them had a wider playing range than me, but a tighter raising range, whereas my range is my range. If it's in my range, then I'm raising with it. It's not like I would win every pot I played. But the only time I ever seemed to lose a significant pot was when someone hit some crazy two or three outer or turned over something completely unexpected. I started doing so good in tourneys playing this way, that I would forget to switch up as the tourney went on. Now it's just the way I play.
 
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