This is a discussion on Some thoughts about variance and RNG within the online poker forums, in the General Poker section; These days i frequently see people complaining from RNG and rigged games thinking that online games are arranged. Their main argument is that it is
These days i frequently see people complaining from RNG and rigged games thinking that online games are arranged. Their main argument is that it is not possible to receive same cards several times during MTT or to flop so many flush draws or whatever else only due to variance and that such things do not happen during live play.
But is it really so? I decided to watch a high stakes cash game with famous players and see how it goes. I watched old game from poker after dark or more specifically the part one and part 2 of the 200 000$ cash game between David Peat, Eli Elezra, David Oppenheim, Patrik Antonius, Phil Ivey and Tom Dwan. Here is what i saw without the intention to note everything that happens:
1. Same player got JJ at least 3 times.
2. At least 3 times there were cases when two players got 2 cards from same suit and had flush draw at the same time during a hand.
3. Several times strong hands like AQ and KK were beaten by much weaker ones.
4. The two players on the table which had won wsop bracelets (phil ivey and eli elezra) lost over 200 000 each.
They played around 15 hands in each of the episodes so considering 5 episodes in each part they played total of 150 hands maybe. Is that game rigged? Did these pro players play in such compromised game? I don't think so/
Now think about it - for how much time you play 150 hands in an MTT online (we do not even speak about multi table here)? In normal circumstances no more than 3 hours which is just one MTT. My advise is to watch such games between pro poker players and compare what you see in the same hands count during online play.
I will focus on improving my game instead of complaining from RNG and bad beats. What is your opinion? Did you make such comparisons between live and online game?
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Certainly the variance exists, that is clear, but blame the software for it, or think there is something wrong, is something else.
I'm always on live tables, and since online things happen absurd, if we analyze them as a whole, this happens everywhere, I advise always focusing on the game in question, and everything will turn out well
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Seems to be a waste of time looking at what was dealt. Unless you have huge hand sample, it doesn't mean much. Last paragraph puts it back on track.