So I'm reading 'Kill Everyone'

I'm reading "Kill Everyone" and, of course learning & picking up new things. However, I still can't wrap my head around all the math involved in poker & how the hell you're supposed to crunch all these numbers while playing. Maybe I'm just stupid or perhaps over complicating things in my own mind or just trying to do too much too soon. :creep:

Just hang in there and do bite size pieces - you don't have to have it all at once for it to be of some value to you. Over time the application of a little bit will promote deeper levels of understanding and use which will promote going back to the book and getting a little more out of it.

I recently just got a little introduction to the Nash Equilibrium. I'm not going to pretend I understand it but I got a hold of enough of it to start thinking about it in proper situations. And let me tell you, I am about as far away from a math guy as you can get. I can add, subtract, multiply and divide - the end. Same as any other 5th grader.

Yea it took us all awhile until it comes instant to you in game, but try maybe watching math in poker on dueceskracked Wilt on Tilt does some good stuff!

NeverEnough said:

I'm reading "Kill Everyone" and, of course learning & picking up new things. However, I still can't wrap my head around all the math involved in poker & how the hell you're supposed to crunch all these numbers while playing. Maybe I'm just stupid or perhaps over complicating things in my own mind or just trying to do too much too soon. :creep:

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I've mentioned this book in serveral other threads and for me I think
it helped my tournament game more than any other poker book I ever read.
Most helpful was the equilibrium pushing chart with certain M's towards
the back of the book with the power numbers. I would just put them in
groups of 20 - 65,45,25 and remember the range in each group.

PokerDoctor said:

I've mentioned this book in serveral other threads and for me I think
it helped my tournament game more than any other poker book I ever read.
Most helpful was the equilibrium pushing chart with certain M's towards
the back of the book with the power numbers. I would just put them in
groups of 20 - 65,45,25 and remember the range in each group.

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I don't remember any of that. I do plan to read it again, though.

Just read the review, sound really good, I'm going to get the book right now for my kindle. Get back to you guys when I finish it

NeverEnough said:

I don't remember any of that. I do plan to read it again, though.

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You might have a little mental block on the math - I know I do. You have just got to commit and trudge through it and again, break it down to bite size and get what you can for now. Stop trying to have it down all at once.

The complex math isn't meant to be done at the table. It's about having a feel for where you stand / what to do with various ranges in various situations rather than just guessing.

Also, it's not like you need high-level poker math very much or very often at micro- and small stakes.

Arjonius said:

The complex math isn't meant to be done at the table. It's about having a feel for where you stand / what to do with various ranges in various situations rather than just guessing.

Also, it's not like you need high-level poker math very much or very often at micro- and small stakes.

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While I suppose it might be ideal to have Bruce Chen mad math skills at the table, but exactly what Arj is saying here has served me pretty well.

Just a little bit of time playing with Poker Stove and reviewing some charts will help raise your awareness which will lead to getting a feel for it.