Originally Posted by nenkov407
Both chess and poker are sports. Let's imagine I am good at football (not the American one) and we play 5vs5 with friends. My team wins against theirs. That is the element of skill. Next time the weaker team however wins. This is luck because the referee gave them a penalty shot. But both of the teams have the same chance of winning against Real Madrid as if 72o could beat AA. It happens very rare but it is possible. What I mean in every game you need a luck. Even in chess you need luck for example when you opponent should make a mistake first. You need luck in order this to happen. Or you need luck in order he could not foresee your plan. Every single sport has a lot more luck than you think. If you consider poker is luck and chance then tell my why there are so many famous poker players who enter every year the money at WSOP and there are you, me and the rest of the members of cardschat. At least one of the members of cardschat should be lucky enough to enter the WSOP with only luck and no skill.
Well, let's start with the fact that poker as a sport is not recognized in all countries (all the same poker - is a gamble), chess - the official sport discipline (International Olympic Committee recognized the chess sport in 1999, but not included in the Olympic program).
Any victory in the game, especially when played by professionals - it is a mistake of the opponent. And the fact that the mistake of the opponent - I don't attribute it to luck.
In the game of chess need to be a professional, luck isn't present here. Well, if you take good fortune to the mistake of the opponent, then Yes.
Good luck - it is primarily the probability of events such as the distribution of cards for example, or a lot in football!!!