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It's just been publicly released as a beta, and is beeeeautiful. I'm not sure when the real release comes out, but the thing looks good enough to ship as it is imo.

Made by Bryce Paradis, this thing basically calculates how many combinations of certain types of hands their are on certain flops, and puts them in a percentage. So for example:

I raise with AA, villain calls

Flop comes J♣ 2♣ 6♥

I c-bet, villain raises me.

I believe that a) he called pf with the top %10 of hands and b) he'll raise the flop with slowplayed overpairs, top pair, sets, and flush draws.

I punch this in:

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...and it tells me exactly what % of his total range those specific hand groups will actually make up...

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You can also look at the %s comparatively, ie "what % of his total range will be sets" vs "what % of his total raising range will be sets":

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I'm drooling.

oh, and here's an introductory video by Bryce who explains it much better than I can:

YouTube - Stoxpoker Combo
 
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Do you know how much it will cost when it is released? Also is this something that PS will end up banning down the road? (Doesnt look like it, as you still make the decisions)
 
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Psh, you wimps and your tools. Yes, it looks very effective, and therefore, imo, detrimental to the game :( (Using Pokerstove and Pokertracker as tools to help your game is quite different obv)
 
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I didn't see a button for 'variance' ... ;)

The more I see of this, the more I'm convinced to never deposit online and stick with my casino play, one table, no computer programs, LIVE action and REAL poker players.

If I want to play a computer, I'll brush up on my chess and take on Big Blue.
 
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wow this looks awesome, always rely on chuck for the new sh** but yeah def look into , although im a mac userrrrrrr
 
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Psh, you wimps and your tools. Yes, it looks very effective, and therefore, imo, detrimental to the game :( (Using Pokerstove and Pokertracker as tools to help your game is quite different obv)
You can already do this with Stove, but it's pretty tedious.
 
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Just another tool for people with no mind for poker....imho
The good Lord gave us brains, just for things like this.

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Oh, so you can calculate the combinations of sets and compare them mathematically the combos of flushes/overpairs/top pair hands respectively on the fly?
 
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if the chances of a set were a little better it would make a nice peace symbol. Lol-
 
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Oh, so you can calculate the combinations of sets and compare them mathematically the combos of flushes/overpairs/top pair hands respectively on the fly?

If you can't do it on your own then imo you shouldn't use it in-game. This is pretty much a circular argument so I won't go any farther but Nevadnick said it best: If I want to play a computer, I'll play chess.

Using Stove and PT to analyze your game while NOT playing is different.

(I feel the same way about PAHUD btw)
 
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Using Stove and Poker Tracker to analyze your game while NOT playing is different.

Who said they would use it in-game?

This is a hand analysis tool just like pokerstove, sngwiz, etc etc.

Just like with pokerstove, the more you use the tool, the more general situations become second nature, the easier it becomes to play those situations in-game.
 
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Who said they would use it in-game?


Ah, now I understand. I was wondering how you would manage to input anything useful into it or analyse its results in your 20 second online decision time.
 
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Yeah I'm just realizing my initial post made it sound like I was too...
 
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Looks likes like a nice little program. Thanks for posting Chuck, although I really dont use these things too often. Just downloaded Pokerstove finally a month ago and barely use it. As for the argument of using these things, if you can get any edge at all, whether it by using your brain or a program I think you should use it.
 
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the best App is one that asks just 1 question

DID YOU CATCH A PIECE OF THE FLOP ?

If you click yes, it blinks "BET OUT" in big letters

if you click no, it auto mucks your hand
 
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Oh, so you can calculate the combinations of sets and compare them mathematically the combos of flushes/overpairs/top pair hands respectively on the fly?


obv look at the avatar it explains the brains, who cant do this lol...^^
 
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Watching the youtube vid of this now and it look amazing. Thanks for sharing!
 
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"Originally Posted by ChuckTs
Oh, so you can calculate the combinations of sets and compare them mathematically the combos of flushes/overpairs/top pair hands respectively on the fly?"

After playing for the last 35 years i'd say yes i can,maybe not like your new fangled program.....but I can hold my own with anyone.

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I really don't understand why anyone has a problem with these programs...
 
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Ive downloaded the file, but when I run it I get this...

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Check the 2p2 and stoxpoker threads for the program - numerous people are missing plugins/dll files (whatever the hell they are) that need to be installed. The one you're looking for has probably already been linked to.
 
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Psh, you wimps and your tools. Yes, it looks very effective, and therefore, imo, detrimental to the game :( (Using Pokerstove and Pokertracker as tools to help your game is quite different obv)


Uh, its exactly the same.

Thanks for the link Chuck.
 
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Uh, its exactly the same.

Thanks for the link Chuck.

He worded his original post wrong making it sound like something to be done on the fly. I was referring to THAT
 
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