Originally Posted by NoWuckingFurries
Russia is totally corrupt and run by criminals, so there must be an ulterior motive...
Originally Posted by Makwa
.......Meanwhile, lots of peeps will be coming online to collude openly at OFC and other places. Long before the recent invasion by Russians at OFC........
ha haaaa...... I knew there's be some of this due to the recent events....
maybe Russian Govt is doing for the good of the people.....cause they know more of them will be + ROI in online poker if they follow solid "timpley"
seriously though, Makwa is correct, this is a serious problem and if it continues and grows, it very well could spell the end of online poker ......
enough people get into the cheating biz, and all the honest players will begin to leave (cause they will be watching their stats drop ever lower) .....for every honest player that leaves online behind, the % of cheaters becomes that much higher and it can only accelerate from there
there's been an explosion in the number of players online from that whole region ....Russia and all the former soviet bloc/satellite countries......and most definitely there are at least some fairly large and organized rings (why else would cheating strategies/lessons be openly discussed in a publicly viewable forum otherwise ?....perhaps because it's gotten so big, to the point that they figure "no big deal, everyone knows anyhow
surely there are cheaters from every country or region
, but I believe that particular region boasts more than it's fair share of them.....
seen too many instances over the last few months where for some reason a freerolls
entries are overwhelmingly all from the region..... couple of times now I've seen freerolls where password didnt work for anyone, and nobody was registered.....but then in the last few minutes before the start time the list quickly fills up and 80 to near 100% of the entries are from that region ???
definitely some well organized fishy business goin on....and for those that figure "who cares, it's a freeroll".... they're just gaining experience and will be coming to your cash ring or buy-in tourny soon (prob already plenty there)
any large, organized ring, that plays it smart and doesn't use same players together over and over many times............can clean up and be invisible to any poker sites
security... (a few hundred people, or a dozen people with dozens of accts each, constantly cycling out used accts and always making new ones).....
it's happening...you can stick your head in the sand if you want to.....but it's happening on some level already, and will only increase over time
the only thing that has any chance of stopping it is if enough people get off their lazy azz, and take 2 minutes to e-mail the poker sites they play at and voice their concerns about the lax state of security.......
any time a site gets any signifigant increase
in similarly themed
e-mails for a given period you can be sure they will be paying attention......increased e-mails such as these where people voice concern over security
and integrity of the games
and they will be sure to start the ball rolling on in depth investigation and new security measures
send e-mails to firstname.lastname@example.org
, and CC same e-mail to email@example.com
, and firstname.lastname@example.org
...(dont bother sending anything to the generic email@example.com.....the
other addresses go straight to the people that would get em anyhow
at pokerstars firstname.lastname@example.org
is the only address I know of
also a good idea to take the few seconds to email them any
time you see anything
that's even slightly suspect... if players involved did no wrong then they dont even know they were looked at..... no harm no foul.....players that get reported repeatedly will be more closely scrutinzed and eventually a pattern may form that security can pick up on....(many times players could be indeed cheating and security can find no evidence because the players are sophisticated and only through many instances may they be able to detect somethings not right).... it's all of ours responsibility
to do what we can to try and keep the game as honest as possible
any 10 yr old can make 10 accts in same day from the same computer and connection, then register all 10 of those accts in the same MTT.... that fact alone makes me certain that site security is severely lacking
they're pretty good at stopping swearing or spamming in the chat though....some how they can find the time and money to make an automatic system to stop that.........
but typing in "other than English"
they cant stop (even though it's against their own rules)....
even typing in non-English alphabet is ok.......like cyrillic (Russian) alphabet is ok (that chat looks like this -> lll llllll llll lllllllll lll)
..... they cant stop that.....
but if you use a curse word, even with spaces and dots in between the letters...the automatic chat monitor instantly catches on......better to stop profane insults that to stop even the least sophisticated of cheaters
guess I got a little off topic (cant help myself sometimes)........sorry to hijack your thread Texas