Razz and Stud Bring-in Tiebreaker?

juanchoak · Oct 7, 2015

I've always had this question about this two games now that I am playing HORSE seriously. In razz the highest card brings in and in stud the lowest card brings in but there are sometimes when two players have let's say a king and one of them makes the bring in. which player and based on what has to make the bring if they both have the same card?

ty guys

Lexxx · Oct 7, 2015

Hi buddy! Where did you see that? In which poker room? Curious...

OzExorcist · Oct 7, 2015

Good question - it's done by suit (the only time as far as I'm aware in poker that suit "strength" actually matters).

The suits are ranked, lowest to highest, as follows:

Clubs -> Diamonds -> Hearts -> Spades

Easiest way to remember that is that it's in alphabetic order

So in stud, if someone's upcard is 2h and someone else's upcard is 2c, the 2c would be the bring in.

Remember that it's reversed in razz, so if someone had Kc showing and someone had Ks showing, Ks would bring in.

benspocket · Oct 8, 2015

well i hate razz , but i like stud

OzExorcist · Oct 8, 2015

Razz is the greatest - gotta have the right temperament for it though, because I think it's easily the most frustrating form of poker too.

Nothing like starting (A2)36 then going brick-brick

tbdbitl · Oct 8, 2015

Lexxx said:
Hi buddy! Where did you see that? In which poker room? Curious...

Before we were shut out in the US, I was playing HORSE tourneys on FTP.

dexon303 · Oct 10, 2015

Razz is good game for fun like a lotto.

BRADYboy2 · Oct 10, 2015

OzExorcist said:
Razz is the greatest - gotta have the right temperament for it though, because I think it's easily the most frustrating form of poker too.

Nothing like starting (A2)36 then going brick-brick

I love razz and used to play many ring games and also the $1-5$ SnG's and also stilll play the daily razz tournament on FTP and yes it can be frustrating sometimes as there's alot of insta folding when playing razz but i find it helped me with games like Omaha hi/lo and horse also.

juanchoak · Oct 13, 2015

OzExorcist said:
Good question - it's done by suit (the only time as far as I'm aware in poker that suit "strength" actually matters).

The suits are ranked, lowest to highest, as follows:

Clubs -> Diamonds -> Hearts -> Spades

Easiest way to remember that is that it's in alphabetic order

So in stud, if someone's upcard is 2h and someone else's upcard is 2c, the 2c would be the bring in.

Remember that it's reversed in razz, so if someone had Kc showing and someone had Ks showing, Ks would bring in.

Thank you very much sir, all clear now. Thats why the ace of spades is such a beatiful card with the big spade, thanks again and see you at the tables.

brno22 · Oct 13, 2015

Razz and Omaha are my favorite games

10058765 · Oct 13, 2015

juanchoak said:
Thank you very much sir, all clear now. Thats why the ace of spades is such a beatiful card with the big spade, thanks again and see you at the tables.

the Ace of spades has nothing to do with the bring in.
Remember the suits are only used to determine who has to do the bring in.
When it comes to who wins the pot the suits won't be considered.
So for example in RAZZ, if 2 players make a wheel it's just a tie.

Sall · Oct 13, 2015

OzExorcist said:
Good question - it's done by suit (the only time as far as I'm aware in poker that suit "strength" actually matters).

The suits are ranked, lowest to highest, as follows:

Clubs -> Diamonds -> Hearts -> Spades

Easiest way to remember that is that it's in alphabetic order

So in stud, if someone's upcard is 2h and someone else's upcard is 2c, the 2c would be the bring in.

Remember that it's reversed in razz, so if someone had Kc showing and someone had Ks showing, Ks would bring in.

Now that I didn't know. I like to play these two versions and also was curious why and now I know. I thought it had something to do with your place you were sitting. LOL Great thread!

juanchoak · Oct 13, 2015

10058765 said:
the Ace of spades has nothing to do with the bring in.
Remember the suits are only used to determine who has to do the bring in.
When it comes to who wins the pot the suits won't be considered.
So for example in RAZZ, if 2 players make a wheel it's just a tie.

??? what are you saying man? everyone knows that in poker hands no suit has more value over another. And yes in this 2 types of games the tiebraker is the suit, so i dont really understand your post.
The question is about tie braker, I just stated that the ace of spades is the different card in the deck, and about your first line, the ace of spades does have something to do with the bring in because if someone in stud has the ace of diamonds and another player has the ace of spades the one with the ace of diamonds has to make the bring in.

Dorugremon · Oct 13, 2015

Bring-in tie breakers are determined by the suit rankings borrowed from Bridge:

club < diamond < heart < spade

skavenger · Oct 13, 2015

Hey , sorry for my answer that will not help you, I do not play that style yet, so hopefully that will help you soon I just wanted to recommend a movie called '' five card stud'é the western genre and I found otimo ; ! ] Found I should comment, hugs!

veronica · Oct 13, 2015

I like it like playing stud razz are variants that are around in my head since the holm texas is more aggressive and is not happening to me they're letters and variants against me , so I see other options

Lexxx · Oct 14, 2015

OzExorcist said:
Good question - it's done by suit (the only time as far as I'm aware in poker that suit "strength" actually matters).

The suits are ranked, lowest to highest, as follows:

Clubs -> Diamonds -> Hearts -> Spades

Easiest way to remember that is that it's in alphabetic order

So in stud, if someone's upcard is 2h and someone else's upcard is 2c, the 2c would be the bring in.

Remember that it's reversed in razz, so if someone had Kc showing and someone had Ks showing, Ks would bring in.

Wow!!! Every day I learn something new. Tx buddy for this information!

10058765 · Oct 15, 2015

juanchoak said:
??? what are you saying man? everyone knows that in poker hands no suit has more value over another. And yes in this 2 types of games the tiebraker is the suit, so i dont really understand your post.
The question is about tie braker, I just stated that the ace of spades is the different card in the deck, and about your first line, the ace of spades does have something to do with the bring in because if someone in stud has the ace of diamonds and another player has the ace of spades the one with the ace of diamonds has to make the bring in.

First, how can I know everyone knows no suits have more value.
I have seen stranger things.
About the bring in....in stud the lowest card has to do the bring in.....
That will never be an ace unless every upcard is an ace, which obviously is only possible when there's only players or less.

GODZZ · Oct 15, 2015

I miss Razz ,I play at ACR , so no Razz.

OzExorcist · Oct 17, 2015

hammersc said:
In razz the highest card brings in and in stud the lowest card brings in but there are sometimes when two players have let's say a king and one of them makes the bring in uhmm it is different, the bring -in yummy may be some difference in the more or less blind but are completely different games

Erm... yeah, that's exactly what OP's question was. Look above, it's been answered (decided by suit).

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