punished for complaining to ABSOLUTE POKER SUPPORT

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I went back to play some more on vegaspoker247 because I got a rakeback payment in my account (it was late ofcourse). I wrote customer service about how the payments were always late and that they had lost a lot of players due to their new policies, basicaly complained to them. Their response was to accuse me of cheating at the tables. Lol I have never colluded at any game. I hate cheaters and watchdog whenever I can. However I have noticed how things change on a site after you make a few complaints. I got so many bad beat after bad beat all day. I have noticed the same thing before on fulltilt. Has anyone else ever noticed the correlation between complaints and treatment.
 
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Sounds to me like the tiltmonster's gotcha.
 
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I stopped playing at Absolute Poker a long while ago, horrendous site in my opinion. I've never examined the correlation between complaining and bad beats, but I might give it a go if I ever complain. Although I would say that being on tilt is the more rational conclusion.
 
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Do more 1 and 3 outers come when you are on tilt? One hour on one table 57 hands and I see 3 -1 outers and 2 -3 outers, and 3-5 outers after the flop. I played them right as well. The point is only for those who have seen anything like this. I just want to hear if anyone else has run into this before. Im not trying to prove any conspiracy theories. Thanks.
 
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i have had days like that.
it can drive you mad.
now i expect not to win all the time so after i win a few tournys I know the bad beat is coming and i welcome it.
You can't win 100% of the times, if you win enough times to come ahead then you are doing well.
 
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ok once again I log on for a tournament. First hand of first relogin and I flop full house go all in and get called. I lose to quads on the turn. Yeah they dont like you to complain. I have seen a lot of bad runs, but this is beyond that in such a short number of hands. Think what you want but this isnt right. Good luck all. Stay off absolute and their skins.
 
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correlation...welll... perhaps

Sorry if this comment appears twice as my first posting didnt seem to take.
I don't think it's far fetched to think there is a correlation between bad beats and complaints, however I doubt that the poker sites are at fault. More likely it's our bad mood that makes us ultra sensitive to negative things that happen around us. When life is good we rarely focus on life's little irritations, however, when things are bad they seem to come in droves. Some think that negative energy begets negative events. Not sure if I believe that but it's a theory out there.

P.S. sorry about the bad beats, but we do tend to remember bad beats that happen to us more often than the bad beats we lay on others.
 
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Sorry if this comment appears twice as my first posting didnt seem to take.
I don't think it's far fetched to think there is a correlation between bad beats and complaints, however I doubt that the poker sites are at fault. More likely it's our bad mood that makes us ultra sensitive to negative things that happen around us. When life is good we rarely focus on life's little irritations, however, when things are bad they seem to come in droves. Some think that negative energy begets negative events. Not sure if I believe that but it's a theory out there.

P.S. sorry about the bad beats, but we do tend to remember bad beats that happen to us more often than the bad beats we lay on others.

BAM RECALL BIAS DINGDINGDINGDING
 
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no, it's actually a mental block called recall bias.
 
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yeah I get real biased when I lose to quads in the first hand of a tourney with a full house. It happens every day but I am just biased cause I am in a bad mood. Give me a break people. yeah If I was having a good day I wouldnt think anything was wrong with that. HI you sound just like customer support at absolute poker. Thank god there for underground forums.
 
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yeah I get real biased when I lose to quads in the first hand of a tourney with a full house. It happens every day but I am just biased cause I am in a bad mood. Give me a break people. yeah If I was having a good day I wouldnt think anything was wrong with that. HI you sound just like customer support at absolute poker. Thank god there for underground forums.

Clearly you are not on tilt at all and any suggestion that you may be recalling events in a distorted fashion due to your anger at the site is wide of the mark.

Poker sites regularly dish out bad beats to people they don't like in order to punish them. They could give them KK and their opponent AA, but they prefer to make it really hurt by setting it up so that a full house is beaten by quads. If you really upset them expect your Royal Flush to get outkicked.

They do this because they are run by 12 year olds.
 
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Wow, somebody that finally understands what I have been going through. My royal flush got outkicked just the other day.:D
 
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Clearly you are not on tilt at all and any suggestion that you may be recalling events in a distorted fashion due to your anger at the site is wide of the mark.

Poker sites regularly dish out bad beats to people they don't like in order to punish them. They could give them KK and their opponent AA, but they prefer to make it really hurt by setting it up so that a full house is beaten by quads. If you really upset them expect your Royal Flush to get outkicked.

They do this because they are run by 12 year olds.

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I guess they let 12year olds post on forums as well. That was realy insightfull and helpfull. Now I am sure you have better things to do. Please dont reply unless your moving ahead in age.
 
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sorry you cant accept a proven psychological block. you must be correct. bad beats happen to you the most. moreso than anyone else.

who sounds like the 12 year old, again?
 
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I guess they let 12year olds post on forums as well. That was realy insightfull and helpfull. Now I am sure you have better things to do. Please dont reply unless your moving ahead in age.

Last time I agree with someone.
 
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OK EVERYONE OUT OF THE SANDBOX

yeah I get real biased when I lose to quads in the first hand of a tourney with a full house. It happens every day but I am just biased cause I am in a bad mood. Give me a break people. yeah If I was having a good day I wouldnt think anything was wrong with that. HI you sound just like customer support at absolute poker. Thank god there for underground forums.

You missed my point Phil. I was actually sticking up for you. Read my post again please. There is a theory out there that says a negative aura begets negative events and that you can influence an event to your benefit through positive thinking.

Had you been in a positive mood when you all-inned your boat- who knows - the quad holder mighta got disconnedted with out protection and you mighta won the pot after all ;)

So it's the Universe that's phoquing with you NOT the pokersite.
 
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You missed my point Phil. I was actually sticking up for you. Read my post again please. There is a theory out there that says a negative aura begets negative events and that you can influence an event to your benefit through positive thinking.

are you talking about that black-box study thing? i read about that, too.
 
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if your eyes roll back and you start to babble

are you talking about that black-box study thing? i read about that, too.

Why do I always think you are speaking in tongues, :eek:
Explain yourself dude - what black box thing?

p.s. hope you are laughing, or your boat gonna sink next.
 
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joosebuck I would apreciate if you post on some other thread. Maybe one where you can be helpfull. Surely you must have something else to do than to keep replying to this thread.
 
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I have noticed the same thing before on fulltilt. Has anyone else ever noticed the correlation between complaints and treatment.

Well to be honest ive only ever had a complaint/issue with a poker site once. Full Tilt was the guilty party, did I notice any correlation between bad beats and the complaint, actually no. The thing is these threads appear lots, and id be interested to know what sort of backup you have to your "theory". If you could post some PT stats of your last 50K or so hands it would be interesting to have a look.
 
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The solution is obvious - send them a really nice mail apologizing and telling them how wonderful they are and then enjoy the boomswitchy goodness.
 
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The solution is obvious - send them a really nice mail apologizing and telling them how wonderful they are and then enjoy the boomswitchy goodness.

LOL :icon_chee :dancing: :cheers: :biggrin:
 
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I know this is a bit of an Old thread as they say...But I did google Absolute bad beats and this came up and I felt compelled to say something so here Iam etc :)
I joined Absolute in Jan and was able to get 50 dollars free to play there so I was like why not? Im Mostly a small stakes Sit and Go player myself and the beats that I got were just horrible on Absolute my first few months there..I mean I would go all in with Queens and flop a set and lose to a running straight..This happened 2 times as well in about One week and there were other numerous bad beats as well that were worst then any other site..I started to even ask myself is this fixed?? I know thats not the case because crazy things happen all the time in Poker..
Anyway one day for the hell of it i wrote an email to Absolute saying they were great and I love this site, and I dont see how anyone could not love this Site etc etc etc..
Since I wrote that email I do not get as near as the same amount of bad Beats I got before..Im sure its just coincidence but When in Doubt remember its Ok to Kiss Ass :)
 
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