i believe the last time i posted , it seemed to have quite an effect on many people who not only replied to the post , but had to show there negativity (hoping it would bring them to rise above the rest) by degrading the trivial facts of the post itself such as typeigraphical errors or insinuations to the person who posted (moi) to make me feel bad. Thus instead of ignoring these comments , i retaliated , & instead of learning or replying to the question at hand , it became a mudslinging contest.I never claimed to be an english major , but at 46 i've learned alot & been to 6 other countries in this world to have had an opportunity to learn other customs. For those who continue this immature way about them , let me say,enjoy if that is your desire in life to nitpick on others who are trying to be what nick asks us here , to get involved , to become more family orientated, so be it / my posting is now closed/ tyvm / bluedove / the drunk ol indian