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There are a lot of players, who won millions of dollars playing poker. Negreanu, Esfandiari, Hellmuth, even in online poker ( Dwan, Ivey, Antonius). BUT WHY NOT ME, OR ANYBODY OF YOU ??? Are we worse, lazier, or more stupid? What is the secret in your opinion ?
 
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They started with loads of cash.
 
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Tons of studying, constant evolution through hard work s and all this founded on solid bases of intelligence and talent.
Just like athletes, you start with talent, you work extremely hard on practice and then - maybe - you can claim the top.
 
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Maybe they lost millions before they won millions? Better jet how long it took them to get a winning balance without all the franchise pays?
Of course they have lots of experience and been into all possible situations before and have the cash to back it up but, I bet some of us here at Cardschat may get to win a million if we invest accordingly. :hmmmm:
 
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I believe I was, by a number of factors, patience, discipline, calm and much, but a lot of determination, and even today continue studying about poker, not to mention the heavy investment they made to get where they are today right.
 
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IMHO, the players that have profited the most money over the long term have several key traits :

discipline { players like Gus Hanson, are not supposed to beat the game in the long run because they are to reckless, play to many hands...and in fact , those types of players often bust, and have to borrow money to continue to play , if they did not have a bankroll of millions of dollars}

ability to read tells/ players

above average memory

do not go on tilt after a bad beat or cold run of cards

do not fall in love with gambling itself...but appreciate the money aspect of winning { in other words, Stu Ungar, one of the greatest hold em/gin players that ever lived , who won 40 million dollars in his life, died broke...he was a GAMBLER at heart

ability to take a long break from the game, when bad beats and cold cards seem to hunt you down for a period of several months in a row.

and finally

HAVE ABOVE AVERAGE LUCK !

You can take a above average poker player, and if they have below average luck on a continious basis , they probably wont be a big winner in poker. Ive seen this happen firsthand. My brother played great poker, but was cursed with bad luck/ bad beats. After a few years of it, he finally quit playing altogether and never went back. For people like him, who deserve to win, but cannot overcome the bad luck elements, I think its best for them to quit the game .
 
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I also have this doubt, and if anyone knows the answer, I'm grateful that share with everyone.
many tell me that everything is matter of time, and study.
 
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You have to put a lot of work in, and have the ability to overcome obstacles, whatever they might be - emotional, psychological, physical to achieve your goals.

What you're asking though is an important question. Most people don't have a model of how to achieve their goals. Meaning they don't have a framework for understanding why they don't reach their goal, and how to overcome the obstacles they will inevitably come across. It's actually quite profound and important to understand why you fail. Most people just hit an obstacle while trying to achieve their goal, and then the goal becomes difficult, and they give up and inevitably fail. The funny/sad thing here is that everyone can reach their goals. It's a comic tragedy in a lot of ways.

Most people accept that they are less than what they can be, and it's the fall of man's potential every time it happens. Not to get too deep... but it is. :)
 
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This is rigth, but everything win start losing, the experience is very Important. To the same players who win millions of dollar need study, has been without sleep reading and watching poker hands. And the have hard moments to. Keep playing and keep learning.
 
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The secret is hard work, study, very dedication and practice to obtain a good performance.
 
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The secret is hard work, study, very dedication and practice to obtain a good performance.

and even that may not be enough to post enough regular winnings to warrant all the time in the game.

a above average player, with consistent bad luck, will have a very hard time beating the game of poker ...a average player with consistent good luck, can beat the game for much more then the forementioned above average player with bad luck. This is a fact that I have witnessed over the decades.
 
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Correct study is the key to win all
 
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Study is a key in deed but i think they lost big money until make millions and now more then ever there are staket and play very very relax .The key i think is to be vrey relax play your game and for sure result will come .GL
 
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Correct study is the key to win all

Evidently some of you people have never really seen how a run of bad luck, for a long period, can completely erase ones ability to be a winner in poker .

Ive had repeated sessions where my cards run so cold, that I dont win a pot for 4 hours at the table. You cant win in poker if you cards run so cold, or the bad beats run so regularly, that you dont win a hand or only win a few small pots that do not make up for the big ones you got bad beat on.

It seems to be a common trait for many poker players to overlook just how important the luck factor is in gambling. Yes, poker is still a gambling game and like all gambling games, luck is a very strong factor. To ignore it and claim that skill rules supreme, is naive IMHO.
 
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Well.. you have to realize that at some point in their lives even those successful players had asked someone "Man, how do the pros do it?" or "How did that Doyle Brunson guy do it, why can't we?". But then they realized they can, buckled down and studied the game to get better.

Everyone had to start from scratch, no one was wearing a wsop bracelet straight out of the womb.. I mean, unless you already had a ton of money to start, but still I doubt even those people headed straight for the big tables to figuratively punch a shark in the nose. If they had, they wouldn't be around anymore I guess ahaha
 
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Winning big at poker takes a lot of skills. An analytical mind, patience, discipline, a lack of major "life leaks" such as gambling, drugs, alcohol, etc.
 
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In each case there are better. To become the best need to learn
 
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You know how many guys playing football, millions, but Messi is the only Messi is the best and it's also in poker
 
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and even that may not be enough to post enough regular winnings to warrant all the time in the game.

a above average player, with consistent bad luck, will have a very hard time beating the game of poker ...a average player with consistent good luck, can beat the game for much more then the forementioned above average player with bad luck. This is a fact that I have witnessed over the decades.

Remember that no one is perfect. Avoid negativity, change the tone of your thoughts and surround yourself with positive people. The power of positive thinking is vital for success.

Keep it up and move on! ;)
 
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poker is game of skill thats why we always seen some good player on final table of tourney.. a new comer also have skill and can make it to final table but they also have exprience...
 
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The always study and try to do their best. Hard work, i think, is smth that give them a chance to become a PRO and stay a PRO. But talent and intelligence are also essential to be the PRO.
 
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In my opinion the only secret is study.
 
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In my opinion the only secret is study.

If thats the only secret, then explain how a average player with consistent above average luck, can constantly beat a above average player with conisistent bad luck . This isnt a hypothetical...Ive seen this happen for years in the local games.
 
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The main thing is to have high initial capital to play tournaments that reward as well.
 
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