Originally Posted by cAPSLOCK
Poker is most certainly a game of chance.
Expert players use SKILL to manage, harness and deal with chance the same way a surfer uses his surf board to ride waves.
For beginning and poor players it is primarily a game of chance with occasional moments of inspiration which can be substituted for skill.
I think you're looking at lower skill level, saying it is obviously more luck in those cases, then defining poker in those cases as a game of chance. That's an incorrect conclusion. It doesn't become a game of chance simply because of a low skilled player playing the game. That's like saying basketball is a game of chance because I played against Michael Jordan. Obviously that's not true. My skill level was dwarfed by him, but the game remained a game of skill.
Activities are, by definition, categorized as games of skill or games of chance regardless of the skill level of those participating. Poker is no less a game of skill just because someone sits down at the table for the first time. And craps will always be a game of chance even if the shooter has been doing it for 50 years.
The definitions are mutually exclusive and everything can be categorized into one or the other. Football = Game of Skill, Basketball = Game of Skill, Craps = Game of Chance, etc. So I guess the easy way of saying it is what is the overall guiding factor in the infinite long run? Skill or Chance? In poker, in the infinite long run, it is skill that will triumph.