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I was about to download Poker Tracker but I was reading their user agreement and came across the section below. It seems to give them pretty liberal rights (more than most I would think). Has anyone ever heard of this being an issue?

"3. CONSENT TO USE INFORMATION. When you communicate with us, send us information, or provide content to us or our website, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable right to exercise all copyright and publicity rights you have in the content, in any manner whatsoever, in any media now known or which may be created in the future, including in other works and forms not associated with this website."

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Dont give them any information?

lol what would they do with anything you sent them?
 
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There should be no problem whatsoever. unless ofcourse, if you've signed the licence, you don't wanna send them (through their software) a business plan on how to increase their profits by 100% of anything of the sort, since they can claim it as property. Haha, seriously, just means anything you say to them or send to them is basically "theirs", and they can quote you for it, use it for whatever means they wish, etc.
 
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mtsuga said:
I was about to download Poker Tracker but I was reading their user agreement and came across the section below. It seems to give them pretty liberal rights (more than most I would think). Has anyone ever heard of this being an issue?

"3. CONSENT TO USE INFORMATION. When you communicate with us, send us information, or provide content to us or our website, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable right to exercise all copyright and publicity rights you have in the content, in any manner whatsoever, in any media now known or which may be created in the future, including in other works and forms not associated with this website."

Thanks for any feedback.
mtsuga
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Maybe you should compare it to the licencing agreement of your operating system
 
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Stu_Ungar said:
Maybe you should compare it to the licencing agreement of your operating system
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You have to have an operating system, but you don't have to have Poker Tracker.
 
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I thought Linux was freeware?
 
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NoWuckingFurries said:
You have to have an operating system, but you don't have to have Poker Tracker.
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Sorry, but no one HAS to have an operating system either.

I hate lawyers, and would love to have 'content' defined. Since I believe one can not agree to give their identities away (god I hope this is the case), one might assume that only ideas are involved. But, should this not be the case, merely post all your outstanding bills and debts, on the PT3 forum.:D

That content is also non-exclusive.
 
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NoWuckingFurries said:
I thought Linux was freeware?
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It is, but its still under a licencing agreement.

The windows agreement doesn't leave you with a great deal of privacy or rights to object to OS changes which effect your privacy.
 
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dj11 said:
Sorry, but no one HAS to have an operating system either.

I hate lawyers, and would love to have 'content' defined. Since I believe one can not agree to give their identities away (god I hope this is the case), one might assume that only ideas are involved. But, should this not be the case, merely post all your outstanding bills and debts, on the PT3 forum.:D

That content is also non-exclusive.
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You would find it difficult to run a program on a machine with no OS...and by difficult I mean impossible... and by impossible I mean programs do not directly interact with the machine's hardware, they do so via an OS.
 
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mtsuga said:
I was about to download Poker Tracker but I was reading their user agreement and came across the section below. It seems to give them pretty liberal rights (more than most I would think). Has anyone ever heard of this being an issue?

"3. CONSENT TO USE INFORMATION. When you communicate with us, send us information, or provide content to us or our website, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable right to exercise all copyright and publicity rights you have in the content, in any manner whatsoever, in any media now known or which may be created in the future, including in other works and forms not associated with this website."

Thanks for any feedback.
mtsuga
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To get back on track here...

All this means is that they want to be able to use whatever you send them as they see fit. It usually has to do with testimonials. If you email them and say "Boy! Your product is the best thing since sliced bread!", they want to be able to use your statement in promotions without paying you. No biggie.

Nothing to worry about. It is standard procedure and shouldn't be a problem since most people only email them with their problems. Very few go through the troble to send praises, though I think folks should.
 
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Thanks for all the replies. I guess I was more thinking along the lines of what the program itself might collect (i.e. spyware). I can understand things that I might directly post on their site ... the testimonial thing was good example. That makes sense.

I'm not a lawyer and I don't play one on TV. I don't even always read through all of the agreements but that part just caught my eye.

Thanks again
mtsuga
 
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Stu_Ungar said:
It is, but its still under a licencing agreement.

The windows agreement doesn't leave you with a great deal of privacy or rights to object to OS changes which effect your privacy.
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this.
 
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I didn't know people actually read those agreements, I just check the box..
 
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