Poker Tracker necessary?

#1 29th December 2007, 3:16 AM

Or does anyone do just fine without it?

#2 29th December 2007, 3:41 AM

Most of the serious players use it. Why would you choose not to? The information you gather is quite valuable at making you a better player.

#3 29th December 2007, 3:47 AM

It's well worth it, but I wouldn't say it's absolutely necessary. If you're serious about winning and can afford it, then by all means get it.

#4 29th December 2007, 4:20 AM

I went for like 3 or 4 months of playing without it and I did just fine but now that I have it I never want to play without it. I was playing poker on one of my friend's computers once and I was kinda scared to go into a ring game because I wouldn't have all of the information I was used to having. The price you pay to get it though is well worth it and it will help you make back your investment and a lot more.

#5 29th December 2007, 10:11 AM

def advice on getting it and PAHUD to go with it

#6 29th December 2007, 11:02 PM

Thank you. So specifically in what ways does it really help your game?

#7 29th December 2007, 11:37 PM

Everything

It tracks profits, saves hand histories for later review, and gives you stats on every part of the game you could think of.

I mainly use it for hand history review and using it alongside PAHUD to give me in-game stats for making multitabling easier and decisions in general easier.

#8 30th December 2007, 12:01 AM

I'd love to be able to play without it. But since most of my opponents use it, I feel like I have to use it to be on an even playing field. However, many players who do use it don't know what to make of its data. So it's not just about using it. It's about using it well.

#9 30th December 2007, 3:11 AM

i was wondering the same thing. i do pretty good, definitely need to work on BR management, but i was thinking if i need pokertracker to take my game to the next level and actually be able turn an overall profit. im thinking i should hold off on depositing and take that money and get pokertracker instead the next time i have the extra money.

#10 30th December 2007, 4:01 PM

i'm playing on bodog and i'm not using PT cause the site doesnt support it.
i do see it as a disadvantage when others are using software such as PT & PAHUD to improve their play. If the sites that you're playing on support PT and PAHUD, do get it by all means.

#11 2nd January 2008, 1:11 AM

Well this is unanimous support for PT. I'll get it. Probably just the trial version for now. Poker Tracker 3 is supposed to be released this month.

#12 2nd January 2008, 1:18 AM

I have recently been taking poker a lot more seriously, I got it. I don't have enough hands stored for any real valuable information though.

#13 2nd January 2008, 1:25 AM

Originally Posted by ayasak

i'm playing on bodog and i'm not using PT cause the site doesnt support it.
i do see it as a disadvantage when others are using software such as PT & PAHUD to improve their play. If the sites that you're playing on support PT and PAHUD, do get it by all means.

PT does support Bodog, but you have to buy the add-on handgrabber for it to work.

#14 2nd January 2008, 1:29 AM

I am having trouble decihering all the information that PT provides and setting it up for different sites is a challenge. How can I see the stats just for the session I am playing? I just want the information on the players currently at my table. I have PAHUD but it blocks the call/fold/raise buttons on some sites.

Help !!

#15 2nd January 2008, 1:38 AM

Originally Posted by dufferdevon

I am having trouble decihering all the information that PT provides and setting it up for different sites is a challenge. How can I see the stats just for the session I am playing? I just want the information on the players currently at my table. I have PAHUD but it blocks the call/fold/raise buttons on some sites.

Help !!

You need to use the Layout Manager in PAHUD. In the PAHUD program window, click Options>Layout Manager. Then you can chose which site layout you want and which stats you want to show up and where. Drag the stats to where they don't block other things. You can even change the font type, size, and color. And don't forget to fix up your "Mucked Hands at Showdown" display for each site.

#16 2nd January 2008, 2:08 AM

PT + PAHUD = omg helpful

#17 2nd January 2008, 3:01 AM

Buy? What's this "buy" you speak of?

Pirate Bay ftw.

#18 2nd January 2008, 3:06 AM

Originally Posted by Cheezymadman

Buy? What's this "buy" you speak of?

Pirate Bay ftw.

OMG, please don't start this again. Pat, the owner, writer, and main support at PokerTracker, deserves to be paid for his hard work. I would imagine the folks at PokerAce do, also. Please don't endorse software piracy.

#19 2nd January 2008, 3:15 AM

I've profited without it for a while now. But I really think it would be awesome if I took the time to purchase it, I don't see how it could hurt.

#20 2nd January 2008, 3:20 AM

Just to add....Many people also like Poker Office

They are defininately the top two far and away programs.

#21 2nd January 2008, 4:27 AM

Is it any point to get it if you have pokeroffice?

#22 2nd January 2008, 5:20 AM

Originally Posted by MrSticker

PT does support Bodog, but you have to buy the add-on handgrabber for it to work.

wow, thanks MrSticker ! this is great new for me, would be looking forward to getting PT soon. Thanks lots! appreciate it!

#23 2nd January 2008, 5:32 AM

Originally Posted by ayasak

wow, thanks MrSticker ! this is great new for me, would be looking forward to getting PT soon. Thanks lots! appreciate it!

*sigh* right after i made the post, i looked up on the Dogwatcher software and they've stop sales for the program as it doesnt work on the new layout of Bodog. Guess i've gotta wait for their new program...

#24 2nd January 2008, 8:02 AM

Originally Posted by ayasak

*sigh* right after i made the post, i looked up on the Dogwatcher software and they've stop sales for the program as it doesnt work on the new layout of Bodog. Guess i've gotta wait for their new program...

Aw jeez. Sorry, man. That's good to know, though.

#25 2nd January 2008, 1:57 PM

Does PT calculate outs and hand probabilities too while in a hand?

#26 2nd January 2008, 2:00 PM

Originally Posted by TexGuy

Does PT calculate outs and hand probabilities too while in a hand?

The HUD might, but the main program doesn't.

#27 2nd January 2008, 4:02 PM

Is PT allowed at all sites? I read that people were selling lists of people they tracked at sites.

#28 2nd January 2008, 5:16 PM

Originally Posted by rcmedcop1

Is PT allowed at all sites? I read that people were selling lists of people they tracked at sites.

You don't even have to have it running while you play, all it does is import hand histories that you save on your hard drive.

It will track players taht you play with, so it can be useful for figuring out tendencies and such

#29 2nd January 2008, 5:18 PM

Citing Stars as an example, PT is allowed, what is prohibited is the sharing of PT information through a public database, for example.

#30 2nd January 2008, 7:18 PM

DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME OR MONEY WITH POKER TRACKER

oh , I mean unless you're willing to put the time into it . lots of hard work to understand all the information you get and how to use it to your benefit.

the people who can benefit from PT are already keeping track of some different stats and studying HH'S and all that stuff and then PT helps them do it easier .

I do not have it because I can't afford it but I'm thinking seriously about getting the new one soon , my problem is I'm not sure I can or will put the time and effort in it that it takes to make it worthwhile.

good luck to all who do get it , I know the help is here to back you up .

#31 6th January 2008, 7:10 AM

Originally Posted by ChuckTs

It's well worth it, but I wouldn't say it's absolutely necessary. If you're serious about winning and can afford it, then by all means get it.

Is it worh to buy if you have pokeroffice?

#32 6th January 2008, 7:56 AM

Originally Posted by bustme

Is it worh to buy if you have pokeroffice?

no, wait till the new PT comes out then get that when your PO subscription runs out.

#33 6th January 2008, 9:28 AM

I'm thinking about developing a web-based version of a similar product to poker-tracker. Think sharscope and pokertracker combined with some nifty features... give me a months or so and I'll have it ready for alpha/beta testing. The initial two sites it will support will be FTP and Cake.

#34 6th January 2008, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Eugenius

I'm thinking about developing a web-based version of a similar product to poker-tracker. Think sharscope and pokertracker combined with some nifty features... give me a months or so and I'll have it ready for alpha/beta testing. The initial two sites it will support will be Full Tilt Poker and Cake.

make sure you post it up on CC. I would love to try it but currently only play on PS.