Poker Tracker necessary?

#1 December 29th, 2007, 2:16 AM

Or does anyone do just fine without it?

#2 December 29th, 2007, 2:41 AM

Most of the serious players use it. Why would you choose not to? The information you gather is quite valuable at making you a better player.

#3 December 29th, 2007, 2:47 AM

It's well worth it, but I wouldn't say it's absolutely necessary. If you're serious about winning and can afford it, then by all means get it.

#4 December 29th, 2007, 3:20 AM

I went for like 3 or 4 months of playing without it and I did just fine but now that I have it I never want to play without it. I was playing poker on one of my friend's computers once and I was kinda scared to go into a ring game because I wouldn't have all of the information I was used to having. The price you pay to get it though is well worth it and it will help you make back your investment and a lot more.

#5 December 29th, 2007, 9:11 AM

def advice on getting it and PAHUD to go with it

#6 December 29th, 2007, 10:02 PM

Thank you. So specifically in what ways does it really help your game?

#7 December 29th, 2007, 10:37 PM

Everything

It tracks profits, saves hand histories for later review, and gives you stats on every part of the game you could think of.

I mainly use it for hand history review and using it alongside PAHUD to give me in-game stats for making multitabling easier and decisions in general easier.

#8 December 29th, 2007, 11:01 PM

I'd love to be able to play without it. But since most of my opponents use it, I feel like I have to use it to be on an even playing field. However, many players who do use it don't know what to make of its data. So it's not just about using it. It's about using it well.

#9 December 30th, 2007, 2:11 AM

i was wondering the same thing. i do pretty good, definitely need to work on BR management, but i was thinking if i need pokertracker to take my game to the next level and actually be able turn an overall profit. im thinking i should hold off on depositing and take that money and get pokertracker instead the next time i have the extra money.

#10 December 30th, 2007, 3:01 PM

i'm playing on bodog and i'm not using PT cause the site doesnt support it.
i do see it as a disadvantage when others are using software such as PT & PAHUD to improve their play. If the sites that you're playing on support PT and PAHUD, do get it by all means.

#11 January 2nd, 2008, 12:11 AM

Well this is unanimous support for PT. I'll get it. Probably just the trial version for now. Poker Tracker 3 is supposed to be released this month.

#12 January 2nd, 2008, 12:18 AM

I have recently been taking poker a lot more seriously, I got it. I don't have enough hands stored for any real valuable information though.

#13 January 2nd, 2008, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by ayasak

i'm playing on bodog and i'm not using PT cause the site doesnt support it.
i do see it as a disadvantage when others are using software such as PT & PAHUD to improve their play. If the sites that you're playing on support PT and PAHUD, do get it by all means.

PT does support Bodog, but you have to buy the add-on handgrabber for it to work.

#14 January 2nd, 2008, 12:29 AM

I am having trouble decihering all the information that PT provides and setting it up for different sites is a challenge. How can I see the stats just for the session I am playing? I just want the information on the players currently at my table. I have PAHUD but it blocks the call/fold/raise buttons on some sites.

Help !!

#15 January 2nd, 2008, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by dufferdevon

I am having trouble decihering all the information that PT provides and setting it up for different sites is a challenge. How can I see the stats just for the session I am playing? I just want the information on the players currently at my table. I have PAHUD but it blocks the call/fold/raise buttons on some sites.

Help !!

You need to use the Layout Manager in PAHUD. In the PAHUD program window, click Options>Layout Manager. Then you can chose which site layout you want and which stats you want to show up and where. Drag the stats to where they don't block other things. You can even change the font type, size, and color. And don't forget to fix up your "Mucked Hands at Showdown" display for each site.

#16 January 2nd, 2008, 1:08 AM

PT + PAHUD = omg helpful

#17 January 2nd, 2008, 2:01 AM

Buy? What's this "buy" you speak of?

Pirate Bay ftw.

#18 January 2nd, 2008, 2:06 AM

Originally Posted by Cheezymadman

Buy? What's this "buy" you speak of?

Pirate Bay ftw.

OMG, please don't start this again. Pat, the owner, writer, and main support at PokerTracker, deserves to be paid for his hard work. I would imagine the folks at PokerAce do, also. Please don't endorse software piracy.

#19 January 2nd, 2008, 2:15 AM

I've profited without it for a while now. But I really think it would be awesome if I took the time to purchase it, I don't see how it could hurt.

#20 January 2nd, 2008, 2:20 AM

Just to add....Many people also like Poker Office

They are defininately the top two far and away programs.

#21 January 2nd, 2008, 3:27 AM

Is it any point to get it if you have pokeroffice?

#22 January 2nd, 2008, 4:20 AM

Originally Posted by MrSticker

PT does support Bodog, but you have to buy the add-on handgrabber for it to work.

wow, thanks MrSticker ! this is great new for me, would be looking forward to getting PT soon. Thanks lots! appreciate it!

#23 January 2nd, 2008, 4:32 AM

Originally Posted by ayasak

wow, thanks MrSticker ! this is great new for me, would be looking forward to getting PT soon. Thanks lots! appreciate it!

*sigh* right after i made the post, i looked up on the Dogwatcher software and they've stop sales for the program as it doesnt work on the new layout of Bodog. Guess i've gotta wait for their new program...

#24 January 2nd, 2008, 7:02 AM

Originally Posted by ayasak

*sigh* right after i made the post, i looked up on the Dogwatcher software and they've stop sales for the program as it doesnt work on the new layout of Bodog. Guess i've gotta wait for their new program...

Aw jeez. Sorry, man. That's good to know, though.

#25 January 2nd, 2008, 12:57 PM

Does PT calculate outs and hand probabilities too while in a hand?

#26 January 2nd, 2008, 1:00 PM

Originally Posted by TexGuy

Does PT calculate outs and hand probabilities too while in a hand?

The HUD might, but the main program doesn't.

#27 January 2nd, 2008, 3:02 PM

Is PT allowed at all sites? I read that people were selling lists of people they tracked at sites.

#28 January 2nd, 2008, 4:16 PM

Originally Posted by rcmedcop1

Is PT allowed at all sites? I read that people were selling lists of people they tracked at sites.

You don't even have to have it running while you play, all it does is import hand histories that you save on your hard drive.

It will track players taht you play with, so it can be useful for figuring out tendencies and such

#29 January 2nd, 2008, 4:18 PM

Citing Stars as an example, PT is allowed, what is prohibited is the sharing of PT information through a public database, for example.

#30 January 2nd, 2008, 6:18 PM

DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME OR MONEY WITH POKER TRACKER

oh , I mean unless you're willing to put the time into it . lots of hard work to understand all the information you get and how to use it to your benefit.

the people who can benefit from PT are already keeping track of some different stats and studying HH'S and all that stuff and then PT helps them do it easier .

I do not have it because I can't afford it but I'm thinking seriously about getting the new one soon , my problem is I'm not sure I can or will put the time and effort in it that it takes to make it worthwhile.

good luck to all who do get it , I know the help is here to back you up .

#31 January 6th, 2008, 6:10 AM

Originally Posted by ChuckTs

It's well worth it, but I wouldn't say it's absolutely necessary. If you're serious about winning and can afford it, then by all means get it.

Is it worh to buy if you have pokeroffice?

#32 January 6th, 2008, 6:56 AM

Originally Posted by bustme

Is it worh to buy if you have pokeroffice?

no, wait till the new PT comes out then get that when your PO subscription runs out.

#33 January 6th, 2008, 8:28 AM

I'm thinking about developing a web-based version of a similar product to poker-tracker. Think sharscope and pokertracker combined with some nifty features... give me a months or so and I'll have it ready for alpha/beta testing. The initial two sites it will support will be FTP and Cake.

#34 January 6th, 2008, 9:30 AM

Originally Posted by Eugenius

I'm thinking about developing a web-based version of a similar product to poker-tracker. Think sharscope and pokertracker combined with some nifty features... give me a months or so and I'll have it ready for alpha/beta testing. The initial two sites it will support will be Full Tilt Poker and Cake.

make sure you post it up on CC. I would love to try it but currently only play on PS.

#35 January 8th, 2008, 9:32 PM

Anybody know when v3 is coming out?

#36 January 8th, 2008, 9:48 PM

~mid january

#37 January 8th, 2008, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by ChuckTs

~mid january

Thanks!

#38 January 8th, 2008, 10:49 PM

It went into alpha mid December, so don't expect it mid Janurary. I would guess at least 2 months alpha, 2 months beta, which puts it April fools day or so.

#39 January 10th, 2008, 4:53 AM

Originally Posted by MrSticker

OMG, please don't start this again. Pat, the owner, writer, and main support at PokerTracker, deserves to be paid for his hard work. I would imagine the folks at PokerAce do, also. Please don't endorse software piracy.

This is a joke post surely

#40 January 10th, 2008, 4:56 AM

Although almost all my music as well as several programs on my pc are pirated, I have to agree with Stick in that PT and it's staff doesn't deserve to be. PT is a perfect example of a program that deserves it's dues.

Pat is constantly updating it, giving A++ support at their forums, and the program is hands-down the best tracking software out there.

#41 January 11th, 2008, 5:33 PM

Might try this system

#42 January 12th, 2008, 3:17 AM

Idle Miner is an add-on to PT that is used to mine hands on your opponents so you can have info on them the next time you play them?

It seems like there is a lot to digest with PT and the add-ons. Anyone recommend a course of action? Which add-ons are necessary?

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