Poker Rage: How to deal with it

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I have recently had to take a step back and take my poker game to the absolute basics despite at some points playing $5\$10 and even some $10\$20 cash game poker with fairly consistent positive results.


At one point I even played at the Commerce Casino for about 6 months primarily all $5/$10 and had over 40 profitable sessions in a row.

There is some amount of anger that I cannot control. Before, after losing in a hand due to a bad beat or maybe suckout, if the cards following the hand were very premium, I could use my anger and give the illusion that I was steaming, when in reality I was just catching cards immediately following a suck-out bad beat.

This is an excellent strategy as players will often call down much lighter when they assume someone is on tilt.

However, doing this with very weak cards is a recipe for disaster and compounds losses due to bad variance.

Is this something that come with age? I am really struggling to deal with just sitting there at the table live after just getting a bad beat from a player near me,

-Photuris

Ideas to deal with it?
 
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Check out Jared Tendler web site. He has a couple of books and does some pod casting as well all centered around the mental side of the game.
 
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Awesome. Quick response. I really appreciate that man.
 
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yes, I see your point and I try to do exactly what you said: give the others players a very good impression that I really tilted and, if I'm playing tight, I start to play a lot of hands and, even if a lose some of them, I keep going on until I get a really good hand to finally go all-in

almost every time someone will call with medium hands or even shitty hands just to try to take advantage of the tilted guy that it's me in the case

It's a really nice and efficient way to try to reduce the damages you sufferend and stay alive in the game
 
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I wrote thinking about tourneys or MTT games in general and online games, but I really don't have any experience with cash games, maybe I'm a little off here, sorry about that
 
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I've been having this exact same problem too, but I somehow managed go get over it. I just learned how to stay calm at all times. You know, you can't be just winning all the time :)
 
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After I broke my hand some months ago I decided I need so stop fuming so heavily. Feel like I have been improving but there is no recipe... I just basically try to carry on and focus on my other tables
 
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Playing as if I'm on tilt. I have never thought about playing like that. Anyway, GL to you trying to play that way.
 
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You cant let suckouts get to you. preferably ALL your loses would be suckouts..

If all your losses were suckouts then you ALWAYS got your money in good.

its like betting someone whos one a flush draw, 3/4 pot bet when you have 2 pair. EVEN if they call and EVEN if they hit their flush and crush your 2 pair you induced their error, their loss your gain. in game theory anyway.

stick with it, watch the long term results.
 
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Being that guy

I love ****ing with people by continuously going all-in and winning. This makes me so happy to see all the rage in chat. all that "donkey, ****ing bingo money, retard, and what ever other insult they will come up with.:D I mean half the time in a hourly $10 freeroll and people going ape shit about the fact that I just dont care. Anyone else with me on this subject.
 
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dude, you had 40 winning cash game sessions in a row, why do you need help with tilt, you're clearly the greatest player of all-time.

I'd get real with my session tracking and then I'd pick up smoking. Taking a lap around the casino can also help.
 
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When I'm in rage after a game of poker, I sit down and play counter strike, so to let off steam. And my family does not get from me.
 
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Well buddy u asked the question but u also gave the answer to the same question, you know what u did wrong, and thats the answer part, the only thing u seem to have trouble with is dealing with suckouts and bad beats, and in order to dull down that feeling when u get suckedout on, i suggesst u play online as many hands as u can, trust me, those bad beats and suck outs used to bug the hell outta me, and put me on a tillt, but as i learned its all part of the game, sometimes ull suckout on some1, and other times ull get bad hand, and theres nothing u can do about it, and the more suckouts u have the better it is for dealing with tillting, coz from what i have read on your post u are a live player, and u play like 1/10 of amount of hands if u have played say the same amount of time but online poker, its like the refrence i keep useing over and over again, its like hitting a wall naked fists, at the begginning it hurts like hell, but with time your skin and bone gets tougher and it hurts less and less, same thing with suckouts and bad beats, the more u have them the least youll go on a tillt :D
 
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SBEP that is a really good reply for him. And it helps me too, and probably will help others.
 
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Check out Jared Tendler web site. He has a couple of books and does some pod casting as well all centered around the mental side of the game.

Thanks for the tip, dude

I really hate my latin origin because I get so mad to the point that I start really punnching everything that is close to me and it's not a person or an animal (hehehe)

I mean really, I have a huge problem dealing with frustration and usually I get way too "physical" (only agains objects, just to clarify it again, I don't assault a person or nothing like that)
 
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I love ****ing with people by continuously going all-in and winning. This makes me so happy to see all the rage in chat. all that "donkey, ****ing bingo money, retard, and what ever other insult they will come up with.:D I mean half the time in a hourly $10 freeroll and people going ape shit about the fact that I just dont care. Anyone else with me on this subject.

I'm usually the guy cursing you... LOL
 
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You gave you the answer....last time i am thinking on that also....for me this bad part is on online poker. SO, i am badly from big events...put a lot of players out ....but when i am in last 40 players i become so looser (even if i am the chipleader of the mtt , even i have only 10-15bb)....most ot the time after 5hours of play. It could be because of my ages...(near 30years isn't so much...but i am playing poker for almost 10years).
 
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It is very hard to deal with emotions, often losing psoperniki only because emotions and anger. It's hard to control myself when constantly comes a weak hand, but in such cases we have to play very tight, maybe it's wrong, but that's my personal opinion.
 
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Sorry for the late reply!

I am in the middle of the Baton Rouge flood and devastation.

To describe my poker lack of discipline, during this flood I have played so many freerolls and come so close that some crucial mistakes I've made only a handful of players from the money has caused me to give myself out of control physical punishment.

At one point I just punched myself in the shoulders and arms and head like a maniac after shipped AK with a midsize stack from under the gun only to be snapped by AA and the same with AQ into AK and QQ into AA.

Each time my stack size was large enough to contain some risk with a smaller raise....


As for the guy asking about my 40 cash game $5/$10 sessions in a row..

I am nothing like that player that ran $1500 to $15,000 2 years ago. As I am making horrible calls and chasing I am well aware of how horrible it is but just doing anything to end the rage by winning a big pot...which snowballs and snowballs into disaster.
 
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My losses aren't suckouts.

If all they were was suckouts than my winning sessions would regain and overtake my losing.

I will do fine until the first suckout which causes a chain reaction of unecessary risk and pre-flop pot bloating out of position and with horrible, easily dominated ranges... KJ QK Q9
 
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I think everyone gets that rage sometimes. For some people is more often than the others, but every single man in the planet has it. Im from the first ones, who gets angry for loosing some money. That anger can be felt because the alot of situations that can happen. From that anger comes the rage, then you lose more money because you are not enough focused/sober to win, you are focused just to bring back your money NOW.
You have to think also what is going on in your head, not only on the table
 
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Agreed.

At the Commerce, I had one very very memorable night where I got a slew of premium cards all together in a short period.

AA KK QQ JJ AA and each and every time they went down and I made laydowns that saved me alot of my starting 5/10 $1500 stack.

But after all the abuse, it was barely around $500.00 after a few well timed bluffs using my image.

Anyway, inside my head I was cool and calm and 100% aware of how incredibly well I was playing and how I would have lost 3 buyins had I been any of the amateurs at the table.

By the end of the session, I was dealt 10/10 into a paired board and I fired into the flop and turn (into an overpair holder I believed) until the 10 on the river where I did an excellent check shove and stacked off a stubborn AA and made a $250.00 profit from the session.

I just can't seem to recover that cool-headed confidence that overlooks your short term profit/loss and still feels the swag and confidence of being up a buying or 2 or 3 for the evening and all the positive emotion that comes with that physical confidence reinforcement.
 
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Quite calmly I refer to the usual losers, but when a person meets with a clearly junk card and wins, that's when the rage fills you, and how to deal with it, I do not know ... :(
 
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I have recently had to take a step back and take my poker game to the absolute basics despite at some points playing $5\$10 and even some $10\$20 cash game poker with fairly consistent positive results.


At one point I even played at the Commerce Casino for about 6 months primarily all $5/$10 and had over 40 profitable sessions in a row.

There is some amount of anger that I cannot control. Before, after losing in a hand due to a bad beat or maybe suckout, if the cards following the hand were very premium, I could use my anger and give the illusion that I was steaming, when in reality I was just catching cards immediately following a suck-out bad beat.

This is an excellent strategy as players will often call down much lighter when they assume someone is on tilt.

However, doing this with very weak cards is a recipe for disaster and compounds losses due to bad variance.

Is this something that come with age? I am really struggling to deal with just sitting there at the table live after just getting a bad beat from a player near me,

-Photuris

Ideas to deal with it?

just assume every time you get it in good that you will be sucked out on. when it doesn't happen 75% of the time you will feel lucky instead of feeling angry 25% of the time.

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