8bod8
Legend
Silver Level
It took me a while, but now I think terryk's answer is almost perfect.
First I thought it was largely rubbish, but realized that was due to my limited brain.
Now I think: it's a straight flush where one of your hole cards is either the highest card of the straight, or T+.
p.s. I think a royal flush is not really another level of hand rankings, it's just the best possible straight flush
First I thought it was largely rubbish, but realized that was due to my limited brain.
Now I think: it's a straight flush where one of your hole cards is either the highest card of the straight, or T+.
p.s. I think a royal flush is not really another level of hand rankings, it's just the best possible straight flush
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Anders1616
Legend
Platinum Level
Poker is unfair, you have the best starting hand, but you loose.
I had QQ and the man to my left vent all ind, and i followed, he had 2 x 10, first card ind the flop 10.
I even lost a with a straight flush, i had the lower card, he had the upper card.
I had QQ and the man to my left vent all ind, and i followed, he had 2 x 10, first card ind the flop 10.
I even lost a with a straight flush, i had the lower card, he had the upper card.
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NBB
Visionary
Silver Level
If you understand mathematics, it is difficult to believe you would make such an assertion.Poker is unfair, you have the best starting hand, but you loose.
I had QQ and the man to my left vent all ind, and i followed, he had 2 x 10, first card ind the flop 10.
I even lost a with a straight flush, i had the lower card, he had the upper card.
Also, depending on your poker experience, you would of realize that if you made a low end Flush, that there was a possibility that someone could have a higher Flush, this type of beat is very common in poker.
LevySystem
Rock Star
Silver Level
Guys if poker were so easy to play noone would work anymore.
If you use your time to improve youre game, instead of whining about variation you will most likely become one of the 10% that actually win at this game
lets leave rake aside for a moment, but if i were to play headsup SnGs and win 51% of my games I will make money in the longrun. It will still "feel" like I am losing half and winning half of my games, but mathematicaly i will be a winner
If you use your time to improve youre game, instead of whining about variation you will most likely become one of the 10% that actually win at this game
lets leave rake aside for a moment, but if i were to play headsup SnGs and win 51% of my games I will make money in the longrun. It will still "feel" like I am losing half and winning half of my games, but mathematicaly i will be a winner
vapandrei
Rock Star
Bronze Level
Ok, answer me this. If poker is a lottery, how many times have you won at poker and how many times have you won the lottery?
hugh blair
Legend
Bronze Level
I dont know how many hands i have played when was ahead preflop behind on the flop ahead on the turn again and then lose behind on the river thats just the way it goes you got to bet big when your ahead make opponent fold or really evaluate your hand on river and do not be afraid to fold a set ect if you just know your opponent hit dat flush good luck.
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WarawaK
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Everyone gets hit by a bad beat every so often.Or more.But patience is the magic to cards.As I always say,there's always another hand so wait for the one that's right for you.
I would say like three percent.You dont flop the nuts very often.And huge hands don't come bye often either.
I would say like three percent.You dont flop the nuts very often.And huge hands don't come bye often either.
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asalco94
Rock Star
Silver Level
I think luck is poker is very important, and just as there are times when you have 90% of winning a hand and you lose, there are times when you have up to 2% turn your hand and win, as long as the possibilities exist nothing is said in poker
vapandrei
Rock Star
Bronze Level
I wouldn't go as far as saying it's purely a game of skill or even further, but it's certainly not a lottery.
I asked the OP to tell me how many times he has won at poker and how many times he won the lottery. No answer yet.
grumblbrumbl
Visionary
Silver Level
But do you agree that poker consists of making difficult decisions? In any case, I think everyone chooses his own poker philosophy. My philosophy is that poker is not a game of luck, but skill.I wouldn't go as far as saying it's purely a game of skill or even further, but it's certainly not a lottery.
vapandrei
Rock Star
Bronze Level
But do you agree that poker consists of making difficult decisions? In any case, I think everyone chooses his own poker philosophy. My philosophy is that poker is not a game of luck, but skill.
Yes, I do agree that to play poker successfully you need a healthy percent of skill. The confusion for some, comes from the fact that if you strip either skill or luck from poker, you'll never be successful. Both play a huge role in poker, sometimes simultaneously (good plays on nuts for example) or alternately (skill wins you pots with bluffs, you play position well, you steal blinds etc and luck gives you nuts, outs when they are unlikely, keeps you in a tourney when you have no chance of playing the next blind, etc.)
Regardless of the percentage of SKILL versus LUCK, a good player must have BOTH.
To take my idea further, I think the following, with conviction:
1. Those who say poker is a lottery or a luck game, came into poker to win money thinking that it's slots and when they inevitably lose, they blame it on luck like this: "Poker is a game of luck and I am an unlucky person"
2. Those who say poker is only a skill game are a bunch of smug a-holes, who like to attribute everything to themselves to look smarter, better for others or are constantly losing in poker, they know they need skills which they don't possess, and they usually don't admit they're always on the losing side.
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LevySystem
Rock Star
Silver Level
I dont really get what you are saying here...
Like lets asume somone would think poker is only based on skill. And he is constantly loosing. This person would have 2 options. A. Improving B. Quit the game. Or am I wrong? Like do these people play a game they are bad at without the will of improving? Sounds quite masochistic to me.