Poker Etiquette

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Hello!

I was wondering if people wouldn't mind sharing their experiences at live tables.

A few weeks ago I was in a strange situation and was wondering how i should have handled it.

I had just sat down at the table, maybe one or two hands in, blinds 1$/2$,and had K10o. A few people folded, and a few others called. I decided to raise to 6$ as I was unsure of everybody's playing styles. The flop turned over 7 K 6. Some people check, I bet 8$. A few folds, then somebody calls me. It's now heads up. Turn comes a 2(or something inconsequential), my opponent checks. I bet 20$ or so, then my opponent jams, forcing me all in.

I had only bought in with the minimum of 50$.

I took a few seconds to think about my decision, considering the fact that I have top pair decent kicker, and a solid portion of my stack is in the middle. My decision was split 50/50 on whether to call or fold.

I'm sure I looked very nervous and someone at the table took notice I suppose and said that in my situation she would call since I'm pot committed. I knew that players aren't supposed to influence or advise others at the table, and the mood at the table changed.

I ended up calling, and my opponent showed AK. The river was a 10 and I won the hand.
I felt somewhat uncomfortable after the scenario that had just unfolded. Should I have mucked my hand and let him have the pot since I’m not 100% sure I would have called without the help of the other player?
 
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poker etiquette

I have played a few live tournaments, you will always get someone talking out of turn. Generally they will be gently scolded by some of the other players who are perhaps more experienced. In this case the villain was wanting you to call of course as he was sure he had you. And you probably would have called anyways.

You cannot control the actions of others, you can only control your own.
 
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Seems to me that this generation of players have less respect for poker etiquette and other players around them than in the past. I'm not sure if I am right or not, but thats my observation. Rules should be followed and players who don't follow should be penalized, No exceptions
 
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I see two problems here. 1 the fact that someone not in the hand talked you into making a call. 2 You felt bad about winning the pot. Poker can be a cut throat world not for the faint of heart. I'm not saying you need to lie cheat and steal to win every hand but you gotta take what you can get when you get it. Also the woman said SHE would call in that situation, not that YOU should call. Toeing the very edge of the line for her but still not crossing the line. I found in my experience that if you start listening you poker players you'll get talked in to doing all sorts of things you don't want to do. That's why all decisions need to come from your brain, even if its the wrong decision it still needs to be your decision.
 
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You did nothing wrong, you can't control other players. You called and won , even if you sucked out, so take the pot.
Good luck.
 
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Hello!

I was wondering if people wouldn't mind sharing their experiences at live tables.

A few weeks ago I was in a strange situation and was wondering how i should have handled it.

I had just sat down at the table, maybe one or two hands in, blinds 1$/2$,and had K10o. A few people folded, and a few others called. I decided to raise to 6$ as I was unsure of everybody's playing styles. The flop turned over 7 K 6. Some people check, I bet 8$. A few folds, then somebody calls me. It's now heads up. Turn comes a 2(or something inconsequential), my opponent checks. I bet 20$ or so, then my opponent jams, forcing me all in.

I had only bought in with the minimum of 50$.

I took a few seconds to think about my decision, considering the fact that I have top pair decent kicker, and a solid portion of my stack is in the middle. My decision was split 50/50 on whether to call or fold.

I'm sure I looked very nervous and someone at the table took notice I suppose and said that in my situation she would call since I'm pot committed. I knew that players aren't supposed to influence or advise others at the table, and the mood at the table changed.

I ended up calling, and my opponent showed AK. The river was a 10 and I won the hand.
I felt somewhat uncomfortable after the scenario that had just unfolded. Should I have mucked my hand and let him have the pot since I’m not 100% sure I would have called without the help of the other player?

If you look at it from one side, then how do you say it was happening uncomfortable situation for you, in which you probably would have done the same without the speeches of other players. On the other hand, believe me - it can only play to your advantage, namely, by dropping cards in the current hand, you would give the opponents to understand that you can invest a sufficient amount in a bank with a strong hand. In the aftermath, weigh out of them with the value, after this muve, it would be much simpler and the costs would be paid off, since players at a live table would remember with every draw with you that your mouve is psychology. Poker etiquette?) Poker is not only entertainment, but also earnings, and where there is money there is no etiquette! Excitement cloud the mind. Therefore, treat this, namely to lack of, as to additional opportunities to gain superiority over the players.
 
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don't see a problem with you scooping the pot. She shouldn't have said anything not being in the hand, but that doesn't change the fact you had the best hand after the river.
 
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She shouldn't have said anything but she was right I think. You had $34 in the pot and even if you hadn't put in one chip from the few hands you played that leaves you with $16. Kinda have to call after betting $20 with only $16 behind
 
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As above - you did absolutely nothing wrong. The player who's not even in the hand is in the wrong here and should have kept their mouth shut. In fact the dealer should have TOLD them to stop talking.
 
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I agree with most of the prior posts. You did nothing wrong, and the odds are that you may have come to the same conclusion without the other player's advice. Do not feel bad; because it only looks like you were swayed. You seem to have examined this event from all sides; that means that you are an analytical and thoughtful person. The others at the table should have a major beef with the player who gave unsolicited advice, and as also mentioned previously, the dealer should have alerted the poker manager to let them know....but you? You did OK. Be happy that you won the hand, because you will have plenty of hands where your opponent has no business being in the hand, and chases long enough to put a bad beat on you. It goes both ways...you will win some hands that you were way behind and sucked out, and you will lose some monster pots with AA to a 7,2 offsuit.
 
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Since you asked if we wouldn't mind sharing our experiences, i'll tell you about a poker etiquette problem i had at a live table (tournament). But first, as everyone said, you did nothing wrong, and from my experience where i play, the woman saying that would of been reprimanded by dealer and probably got some not so nice comments from other players. I disagree with person who commented she was toeing the line my saying what "she" would do not what you should do, i don't see the difference and i can assure you the casino where i play wouldn't either.

To my story, there is an annoying player (regular) who can never seem to stop talking, shocked when you call her bets without the nuts. Anyway, she was bb, guy raises, a friend of hers comes up to table and starts to ask her about something during hand, action gets to her and she turns and starts answering the person and having a conversation. Mind you , this a turbo tournament , you don't get much time til you are short. Someone says something about clock and she looks at him and says it just got to me, you can't call clock, and continues to talk. Was just annoying, and fact that it was her made it worse, lol
 
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I believe that you have done everything right. I would do it myself. Good luck.
 
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I also agree that OP did not do anything wrong. It was other player's fault to intervene in a hand in which she do not participate.
 
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**** Poker Etiquette.You must think only about money,what u can win.Once Tony G lied to Hellmuth that he didnt watched his hand,after this Tony G won a big pot.Who is a ******?Phil lost a lot of money,because thought that Tony G followed etiquette.
 
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You can not control the actions of your table mates. You may have gotten pushed over the hump to a decision but that’s irrelevant. It’s likely you would’ve called without any input. You likely wouldn’t have felt the need to make this thread if you didn’t spike the ten. Obviously you felt guilty for winning like that but that’s poker. You did nothing wrong. Nice of you to care though. If I were your opponent I wouldn’t blame you one bit. I may ask the dealer to control the table if it were to happen again.
 
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I only play live with friends in a tight circle. And there are no inconvenient situations. And here... I don't think there's anything about it that makes you feel uncomfortable.
 
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I think everyone including the person you were playing with was happy you called, just an unfortunate run out. It's up to the casino rules as to how strict they are with their no-talking all in policy, but it's usually only a big deal when it's a big deal if you know what i mean. When you are pot committed like that the action is basically guaranteed and not worth putting up much of a fuss if I'm a casual observer.
 
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