Poker Clients via proxy

Hi All,
my name is Angelo i am from Italy,i am a new member here.. i play low range sng ,cash holdem omaha most time at full tilt... was just considering to change poker room cus of a couple of factors may be i will go to discuss in another post. I was tring a few new rooms (new to me) but i see not so many differences because "online poker" is online poker whichever room you play at ...you got what i mean....something like SSDR.. you know what i mean... whatever.. i wanted to post my first thread was wondering what kind of topic i could share your opinions about and it came in my mind meantime i was trining installing other poker clients to try (from Italy i have access denied by italian laws to 95% of poker rooms mainpages,poker setups fetures etc.. depends to wich site .. i can run browser via proxy to get access and download setups but for example i cant play partypoker.com because they were patching the setup as soon as the installer says i m goin to install the client on a italian version of windows it blocks..same for the download link from the server.. if i want to play partypoker i m forced to play partypoker.it wich has no cash games.. its totally a different platform .. cus online cash is forbidden and illegal in Italy... same for pokerstars,betfair etc.etc.)..it came in my mind someone from US can help me cus US players have kinda the same situation of italian players.. i dont know if they have links forbidden from Unites States to poker rooms or they simply cant connect.. this i dont know ... but i know US players had problems to withdrawn money etc.. (this i would want to know)
In 2006 (if i m not wrong) Italian governament said online poker in Italy is illegal ,illegal to provide illegal to be played but if you give a fee to the state is not illegal anymore and if you wanna play online poker you must play only in the rooms they are taking the money from so if in full tilt for example we have $ 5 + 0.50 tny , in pokerstars.IT we must play tournaments wich are Euro 3 + 0.96 for example lol .. or something like this ... than the game is legal ...
Of course US players have a lot of poker rooms they are welcome at..
i dont know how it will end there if US government will ever make a law where they says 100% online poker is legal .. i hope they will .. for poker for players who loves poker like i do.. for the hold em sport.. cus to me is a sport...
During these days i was tring to run a couple of poker clients via proxy ,
to overpass those restrictions what i have here in Italy.... i know how to configurate browsers via proxy but i am going mad how i can run a poker client via proxy ..anybody has suggestions or someone of you can help me trought this?

Thank you before all

Nice to meet you. Actually in the US, on-line poker isn't really illegal. It's just illegal for banks to process transactions to gambling sites. Unless it's horse racing 'cause that's all skill. (Gag) However, American players are very limited in which sites they can play at, PokerStars, FullTilt, bodog I think, but not much else. But it's not the government that prohibits us, it's the pokersites themselves. Most of the Euro sites run an IP adress check and if it's from an American server, you're blocked. I understand that there there are ways to get around this using anonymous proxy servers but unless you can come up with a way of getting payouts that don't give away your actuall adress it seems pretty pointless to me.

Where are you from? I love Italy. I've visited twice and my family is from Sicily.

GL

You are welcome before all.

I'd guess that you need a Terminal Server set up in a place that can access the blocked site. Either that or a VPN connection to a computer that can access the blocked site.

A proxy might work, I guess, but you'd have to configure stuff so that your computer itself is using their DNS and stuff. Most proxies I know of are web proxies, which just access other websites, then forward the content on to you.

The thing is, there is almost no legal reason or wanting to do this. Any company who would offer this sort of service is opening themselves up to a lot of trouble. Evil people would use the service to run scams, or traffic in child pornography, or pirate/steal movies/music, or that sort of stuff. No legitimate company would open themselves up to that sort of liability.

Thank fror the reply Four Dogs mate... glad to ear your family is sicilian cus i m from Messina 100% sicilian also haha ..if you have been here you were passing for sure trough my town.. or if not you know where it is ...
yes you are right is beautiful down here expecially in the spring-summer..
from where they are?
KK thats why you all from US you play FTP and we poor common mortals
we have no chance to take down something big there haha... no jokes apart do you think full tilt for example makes IP address location discriminations dealing cards at cash tables or letting you good cards in a tournament cus i see United States players are winning more in % of numbers of hands played at cash tables than players from other countries.... you think they do something like this?
and they can withdraw the money from full tilt ? cus i heard of 30 million dollars transactions blocked there in full tilt last year...
will you come here this summer? lol guess you would want..

Hey Penguin nice to meet you, yeah i know for the browser i m ok i know how to acces forbidden-to-Italy poker and casinos websites but i cant manage to run the program... the poker client itself.... trought a proxy connection... is 4 days i m studing at lol... yes you are right you need a VPN server like openVPN or something like this ... but is a mess to configurate ... but i think i m on the right way to get this what i want to do ...

k i got it... after 5 days of hard work now i can run each client on my pc (including chats,P2P)
to run via routing proxies... my aim is to check out finally if poker rooms are making discriminations
in deling cards ot in giving "good seats" to players dependings of wich country they are from..
and other things i wanna check in sng tourneywin percentage... and i will try finally partypoker.com
I m going to use Proxyfirewall in combo with Vidalia wich is a program
of the TOR network (you can google em)
that helps you defend against any form of network surveillance.
I will let you know if effectively i will get more playable hands than as i usually get...
There is nothing about illegal in this ... it doesnt breaks any poker room rule ..
some poker clients has the configuration option tu run via proxy... its a pitty it doesnt works lol..
who knows why........
this can be also helpful if you have filters or proxy squids at your office meantime you are working
you wanna play if you run this configuration you will be able to overpass em...
If someone wants to configurate his/her (office) pc for this ask here i will help out..

3 words and I wont explain more

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I'm not supporting you with this but.......if you connect to a proxy server from another country, your computer would be as if it was in that country that you connected to. What you do with this is up to you.

Most free proxies suck, you need to pay a small fee to "rent" good and fast servers.

no bro i dont have to pay something i use TOR www.torproject.com is free ... yes is in that kind like you say... i was cheking my login history i can acces from almost all the world countries... and it works.. i dont know how and if this can improve my game quality... i m on a loooooooong losing streak...

im not sure if its mentioned, but your best bet would be to get a vpn client.

..a friend from Morocco will help anybody who wants to run any client anonymously YouTube- Run any program through proxy using vidalia bundle and proxy firewall. i have to say it didnt gave so great benefits to quality of starting hands unless you leave the the table you change your id then you go at the table again.. than seems like i get nice cards in the start... not sure if is related to the proxy stuff.. i remind it doesnt go against any pokersite rule

I didn't know online poker was illegal in Italy. Has the law been passed recently? Because I see players from Italy playing cash games all the time at Full Tilt. My family is from Italy and I was hoping to play when I visit there - I usually go there once every 2 - 3 years. Is there any type of legislation there that is attempting to make it legal? Something in association with the European Union?

Kasanova King said:

I didn't know online poker was illegal in Italy. Has the law been passed recently? Because I see players from Italy playing cash games all the time at Full Tilt. My family is from Italy and I was hoping to play when I visit there - I usually go there once every 2 - 3 years. Is there any type of legislation there that is attempting to make it legal? Something in association with the European Union?

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Actually online poker is legal in Italy. But heavily regulated, so heavily that the only way poker rooms can comply is to have a room where Italians play on their own, cut off from the rest of the poker world. Also, iirc, they can only play tournaments, not cash games. And of course they have stupid expensive rake.

Pokerstars agreed to comply with these ridiculous laws, created pokerstars.it and kicked the italians from pokerstars.com

FullTilt did the brave thing and refused to comply. So Italians are still welcome there. FullTilt is clearly breaking Italian law, but they obviously don't care since they are not located there and what they do is legal in their jurisdiction. I'm not sure whether Italians playing at FullTilt are risking anything, on the other hand.

There are apparently talks of changing the Italian law because when you tax and regulate poker so heavily, you kill it, and so the revenues of those taxes for the Italian state are quite disappointing.

This is of immense interest for French players since the government here is moving towards an Italian-like regulation. In perfect Orwellian fashion, they call this an "opening" of the poker market.

BelgoSuisse said:

Actually online poker is legal in Italy. But heavily regulated, so heavily that the only way poker rooms can comply is to have a room where Italians play on their own, cut off from the rest of the poker world. Also, iirc, they can only play tournaments, not cash games. And of course they have stupid expensive rake.

Pokerstars agreed to comply with these ridiculous laws, created pokerstars.it and kicked the italians from pokerstars.com

FullTilt did the brave thing and refused to comply. So Italians are still welcome there. FullTilt is clearly breaking Italian law, but they obviously don't care since they are not located there and what they do is legal in their jurisdiction. I'm not sure whether Italians playing at FullTilt are risking anything, on the other hand.

There are apparently talks of changing the Italian law because when you tax and regulate poker so heavily, you kill it, and so the revenues of those taxes for the Italian state are quite disappointing.

This is of immense interest for French players since the government here is moving towards an Italian-like regulation. In perfect Orwellian fashion, they call this an "opening" of the poker market.

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Thanks for clearing that up for me, Belgo. That's a bummer. I'm surprised nothing is being done within the EU in general, something that will benefit the entire EU. I guess when it comes to online gaming, each country wants their own piece of the action.

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Thank fror the reply Four Dogs mate... glad to ear your family is sicilian cus i m from Messina 100% sicilian also haha ..if you have been here you were passing for sure trough my town.. or if not you know where it is ...
yes you are right is beautiful down here expecially in the spring-summer..
from where they are?

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Both my fathers parents came from Augusta. I was there in 1986 and yes I passed through Messina on my way to the mainland. I recall spending a few days in a beautiful seaside town called Tourmina. Do you know it? I'd love to go back someday with my wife and kids.

LOL at everyone ignoring the rigtard theory of only US players winning pots and the site choose who wins based on country of origin.

TPC said:

LOL at everyone ignoring the rigtard theory of only US players winning pots and the site choose who wins based on country of origin.

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lol you are confident also with ECONOMY ? where did you study at stanford?

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lol you are confident also with ECONOMY ? where did you study at stanford?

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I'm upgrading you from a rigtard to delusional. Nice work.

BelgoSuisse said:

Actually online poker is legal in Italy. But heavily regulated, so heavily that the only way poker rooms can comply is to have a room where Italians play on their own, cut off from the rest of the poker world. Also, iirc, they can only play tournaments, not cash games. And of course they have stupid expensive rake.

Pokerstars agreed to comply with these ridiculous laws, created pokerstars.it and kicked the italians from pokerstars.com

FullTilt did the brave thing and refused to comply. So Italians are still welcome there. FullTilt is clearly breaking Italian law, but they obviously don't care since they are not located there and what they do is legal in their jurisdiction. I'm not sure whether Italians playing at FullTilt are risking anything, on the other hand.

There are apparently talks of changing the Italian law because when you tax and regulate poker so heavily, you kill it, and so the revenues of those taxes for the Italian state are quite disappointing.

This is of immense interest for French players since the government here is moving towards an Italian-like regulation. In perfect Orwellian fashion, they call this an "opening" of the poker market.

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you made an accurate analisy Belgo is exactly in this kind... no the players risk nothing to play other poker rooms .. is something aleatory.. fact is Italian government wants to put the hands on everything what is "pissing" money (i apologize for the franchness)... expecially if is foreing.. lol they were keeping blocking every day the link of full tilt cashier for two monts or so after they gave up... for example when i log in pkr i see this... YouTube- pkr.avi but i can play pkr

Kasanova if you come here in Italy and you wanna play online if you dont bring your laptop bring the installer of your poker room cus is almost impossible to find a link for download

Four Dogs said:

Both my fathers parents came from Augusta. I was there in 1986 and yes I passed through Messina on my way to the mainland. I recall spending a few days in a beautiful seaside town called Tourmina. Do you know it? I'd love to go back someday with my wife and kids.

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Hey Four Dogs yeah i know Augusta my grandfather was diing there in a submarine during world war 2 lol.. it has a huge port.. or waterfront.. dont know how you call that.. i m too lazy to find the translation lmao... yeah taormina beautiful... when you came in 1986? if you come again dont forget to bring with you a bag full of money lol ..cus time changed and it became a lot of expansivei also have friends from DC they have origin here in messina they were coming almost every year now they cant come any more cus everithing here costs the double.. ahhhhh taormina... they wont put the casino there (
.. for the same reason i was saing to Belgo