poker bot or what??

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I was playing $15 turbo SNG's on stars last night, I've been noticing one player always seems to be in a lot of the games I was in.
Out of curiosity, i ran his name on "find player".

This guy was playing in over 40 tournaments at the same time!
No way a person can play that many games at once!
I made a few comments at the table about playing 40 games-no reply.

About an hour later I ran "find player" again-came up player not found!
either he pulled out or blocked his name.

WTF???:confused:
 
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IMO it is absolutely stupid to play 40 tables, but it can be done. Then again it could be a bot.
 
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the guy is on the leaderboard & has over $10,000 profit!
 
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This could be a bot, but more likely was that it was Hevad Khan lol.

YouTube - 26 Sit&Gos RainKhan

Ae you sure that all of the tourns that he/it was in were going on at that time?
 
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I can't be sure they all were but i went to a few & they were playing.
 
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Hevad Khan has done it.If you don't know who he is he played at the wsop main event.They suspended his account until he proved to them it was actually him playing.

Personally I have never met anyone who plays more than 5 at once.I won't even venture into 2 myself:).Point is it can be done,and I think if anyone had a good NL bot they wouldn't be so greedy as to play 40 tables at once.

Edit:By the time got got to finish my post I see others have already responded.What I said still stands though.
 
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It can be done, and obviously with profit--$10K shows that. As for him repsonding to your chat....I doubt he has a lot of time for idle chatter playing 40 boards.
 
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I've seen the video of Khan doing 26 and it was insane. I'd say very few people could do that, let alone 40. Smells like a bot. You could report the player doing 40, just to see what happens.
 
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was it thevenetian or spacegravy or something? those guys are multitabling monsters, not bots.
 
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flash

the guys name is d-jarl. did some googling (new verb?).
He's from sweden, computer guru, writes multi-tabling software.
dam'n good at it i guess.

problem solved-no bots under the bed
LOL
 
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the guys name is d-jarl. did some googling (new verb?).
He's from sweden, computer guru, writes multi-tabling software.
dam'n good at it i guess.

problem solved-no bots under the bed
LOL

Uh, "computer guru, writes multi-tabling software" doesn't sound like a bot developer to you?
 
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the guys name is d-jarl. did some googling (new verb?).
He's from sweden, computer guru, writes multi-tabling software.
dam'n good at it i guess.

problem solved-no bots under the bed
LOL

sounds like a bot to me.
 
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He's probably just got scripts for autoreloading, betting pot etc. I doubt PS would let him continue multitabling if that information's available through a simple google search.
 
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I use an autoreload script. Am I a bot?

So does pretty much every 8+table multitabling player...
 
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I use an autoreload script. Am I a bot?

So does pretty much every 8+table multitabling player...

Where can i find on of those? I play up to 6 tables and its so annoying to keep manually rebuying.
 
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I use an autoreload script. Am I a bot?

So does pretty much every 8+table multitabling player...


Technically, yes. Thats what a bot is. Its a script that performs actions that otherwise would require human intervention.

I know you may find it disappointing, but there are no mechanical poker playing robots involved. :(

Maybe your part-automation just makes you a cyborg!
 
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I don't know how anyone can play in more than 2 tourneys at a time,even playing 2, you can't possibly concentrate fully on both.

I watched the WSOP & that Hevad Khan is a real idiot,carries on like a Richard Cranium





Hevad Khan has done it.If you don't know who he is he played at the WSOP main event.They suspended his account until he proved to them it was actually him playing.

Personally I have never met anyone who plays more than 5 at once.I won't even venture into 2 myself:).Point is it can be done,and I think if anyone had a good NL bot they wouldn't be so greedy as to play 40 tables at once.

Edit:By the time got got to finish my post I see others have already responded.What I said still stands though.
 
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Technically, yes. Thats what a bot is. Its a script that performs actions that otherwise would require human intervention.

I know you may find it disappointing, but there are no mechanical poker playing robots involved. :(

A script does not necessarily = bot. They're allowed (or at least overlooked) by most sites whereas bots (completely automated) are not. I guess we could argue semantics about what a bot is; I'd say it is a program (poss a script) that automates everything so that there's NO human intervention.

With scripts you're still sitting there, telling the script when to bet pot, or half pot, or 2/3 etc, and when to fold. The only script I use that is completely automated is the reload script. What a disadvantage I put my opponents at by automatically reloading my stack :eek:
 
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I don't know how anyone can play in more than 2 tourneys at a time,even playing 2, you can't possibly concentrate fully on both.

Practice makes perfect. I remember not even thinking of trying more than one table. I'm now 8-tabling and am looking to buy a second monitor so I can get even more jammed in.
 
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I don't know how anyone can play in more than 2 tourneys at a time,even playing 2, you can't possibly concentrate fully on both.

I watched the WSOP & that Hevad Khan is a real idiot,carries on like a Richard Cranium


If you multi-table then obviously you cant concentrate on all tables fully. But, you don't need to be able to fully concentrate on all tables. What would you rather do? Play one table to the best of your ability and have a nice winrate? Or, play 4 tables and even if your winrate was cut in half, you would still make more money each day. :)
 
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A script does not necessarily = bot. They're allowed (or at least overlooked) by most sites whereas bots (completely automated) are not. I guess we could argue semantics about what a bot is; I'd say it is a program (poss a script) that automates everything so that there's NO human intervention.

With scripts you're still sitting there, telling the script when to bet pot, or half pot, or 2/3 etc, and when to fold. The only script I use that is completely automated is the reload script. What a disadvantage I put my opponents at by automatically reloading my stack :eek:


Well, keep kidding yourself but with your auto-reload bot :)D), your PT and your HUD all running while you play, you are on the fine line of the slippery slope already.

In fact, as far as I'm concerned you are only one step removed from this guy. How long until you start thinking like him?

I posted that link before, here's another related article. For everyone's information, the main anti-bot measure that sites are using today is to send those funny lettered codes (turing? or something like that) every now and then to a suspected bot player, i.e. someone playing long hours without breaks, the player must enter the code in order to continue playing, if they don't respond then the account or session gets suspended. Apparently, bots aren't able to decipher and respond to these promptings. But in reality that just means that bot operators must now remain physically present while their bots are playing so that they can respond when required, not much of a deterrent really, especially if they have a profitable bot. Some sites scan your PC for known bot software but that would be easy to circumvent too.
 
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I don't decide someone's a bot based on how quiet they are or how many tables are open. Mind you bots generally don't talk, but when their masters show up to check on things they do. And when their masters decide they can outplay everyone at a table they haven't even been watching then lose a huge percentage of their stack, whoa baby do they ever have hissy-fits.

So I go by their general behavior in a game. What hands they play and how. Also their timing. Humans don't have that really consistent timing of tick-tick-tick-fold, or WHOOSH!-ALL-IN!

Humans use the little buttons. You know what I'm talking about, where u can decide your actions in advance. I guess they're called advance action buttons or some such. Point is they use them, so their folds are faster. Another thing I noticed is that generally a human's all-in is slower than a bot's. They act in reverse. A human has to mull over if they really want to risk all their chips on a hand. Bot's don't have to mull anything over.

I haven't the foggiest how long it takes for a bot to calculate which hands to play, but that might have a lot to do with their tick-tick-tick-folding. They do play a limited # of hands, and their behavior's very predictable.


At any rate, best thing you can do is try to get in the swing of the bot's behavior. It changes from level to level. All-in at the lowest level is basically 5 times the big blind a level up(I suspect that's why raising 5 times the BB works so well in freerolls but have no proof). Also know that some are programmed to protect their blinds with certain hands(means u the human has to be extra careful when a bot's blinded).

Oh and don't show your hands. Even on it's worst day a bot's a great spy if nothing else.
 
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