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Hi All,

I seem to have developed a blind spot in my game. It has caught me out at least three decent sized pots in the last month or so.

It happens when I have a pocket pair, ie TT JJ 99 etc and the board comes say 483.

I have an overpair to the board, but then get caught by someone with a bigger pocket pair. My 99 beaten by JJ, my JJ beaten by QQ etc etc.

I raise a decent amount, the person might re-raise, i typically come over the top and then get snapped off.

Dont even know what sort of help to ask for but this is starting to annoy me......

CuttleFish

I never seem to see it coming.
 
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Post specific situations in which this occured. Post a few if it helps.
 
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Know your opponent. In your example, 99 isn't the best hand to push all in on, you are behind a lot of hands. QQ nearly falls into this category as well.

For example, you lead preflop with QQ and get raised by the rock in seat 4 that has played 2 hands in 2 hours. Be very afraid.
 
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Losing 3 pots in a month with overpair vs. overpair sounds like you are running really well.
 
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Losing 3 pots in a month with overpair vs. overpair sounds like you are running really well.
yah.. no kidding.

OP, what scenario is this in? (tourneys? what level, etc., cashgame?)
 
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Post specific situations in which this occured. Post a few if it helps.

^ this. There are plenty of situations where stacking in these spots is standard, and playing your overpairs scared of an even bigger overpair every time is just stupid.
 
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This one happened to me yesterday:

2/5 NL live cash game

Short handed, 5 players

BTN: $ 500
SB: $200
BB $ 220
UTG $ 180
Hero $ 210

Pre-flop Hero has JJ.
\UTG folds
Hero raises to $25
BTN folds
SB folds
BB (Villain) calls.

Flop is 3 7 9 rainbow.

BB checks
Hero bets $25 (bad sized bet? think it looked weak)
Villain BB raises to $50
Hero goes all-n
Villain calls and shows QQ

I think his check on the flop threw me? He seemed like he knew what he was doing so I assumed he would have raised with a decent pp, thats why I didnt put him on it. I read it that he was reading my $25 as weak and trying to push me off the hand.
 
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this is one example from yesterday but it is pretty much exactly the same situation that has caught me out a few times lately.

If it is just standard, then no big deal. It just feels to me like I am missing something.
 
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buy in for at least 100 BBs.

with little more than a pot-sized bet left you are felting an overpair especially vs. lolliveament players.

If you're playing full ring online NL10 and a 4/0 nit calls from the sb vs. your UTG open you can pretty safely b/f the 725r flop with QQ but here, with no 3-bet pre it's pretty much impossible to put the guy on QQ+ unless he was a total retardo nit (these players do in fact exist in live games)
 
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hi baudib, thanks.

so you think me not being topped up to 100BBs was significant here? It did feel that way as I didnt have a lot of moves left. Actually now i think of it, this has been the same for all the ones that have annoyed me..........

Excellent point, thanks.

btw, what does "felting" mean?
 
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shoving, pushing, shipping it, i.e. putting all your chips in the middle so there's naught but felt in front of you.
 
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Just don't get "felted" - nothing but felt left - no more chips
 
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