Pointing out missed hands in live games?

I play live games with my friends, none of them play online poker and some of them seem clueless. Over the past three sessions they've misread the board several times and missed straights, full houses - should I point this out? If they were experienced, I wouldn't. Should I only point it out for those who are clueless?

I think that playing with friends is for fun, I don't want to see my friends loosing this way, however, if you all playing to make money of it and they just "friends" like most of us have bunch of them ,just take their money and be happy.

BenLZ said:

I play live games with my friends, none of them play online poker and some of them seem clueless. Over the past three sessions they've misread the board several times and missed straights, full houses - should I point this out? If they were experienced, I wouldn't. Should I only point it out for those who are clueless?

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IMO whenever or where ever you play if your gonna play at all play by the rules. here are a coupe entries from Robert's Rules of Poker that are related to your question.

2. Cards speak (cards read for themselves). The dealer assists in reading hands, but players are responsible for holding onto their cards until the winner is declared. Although verbal declarations as to the contents of a hand are not binding, deliberately miscalling a hand with the intent of causing another player to discard a winning hand is unethical and may result in forfeiture of the pot.

3. Any player, dealer, or floorperson who sees an incorrect amount of chips put into the pot, or an error about to be made in awarding a pot, has an ethical obligation to point out the error. Please help keep mistakes of this nature to a minimum.

However that is once a player has turned up their cards on their own and didn't realise they had something. But you do not want to do the following, as they are against the rules.

Reading a hand for another player at the showdown before it has been placed faceup on the table.
Telling anyone to turn a hand faceup at the showdown.

Bottom line is if a player turns up their cards and they don't see they have a straight then yes you should tell them they have a straight, but if they show you their cards and only you and then are about to much you don't tell them to turn them up because they have a straight.

Hope this helps.

BenLZ said:

I play live games with my friends, none of them play online poker and some of them seem clueless. Over the past three sessions they've misread the board several times and missed straights, full houses - should I point this out? If they were experienced, I wouldn't. Should I only point it out for those who are clueless?

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Hahaha my friends are similar except half the time they're like WAIT 2...3...4...5... oh darn i thought i had a straight.

The first time we played the very first hand, i went all in with two of them with the nut flush. Apparently they think that you can tie on a flush, and win if you also made a pair (the board had 4 spades). I tried to explain you can't have a flush and a pair because thats at least six cards in a five card game...

it went over their heads for quite awhile, they're getting better now thankfully lol.

Oh, i also cheated once and pretended you can make a straight from King to 4. K A 2 3 4... lol.

I was going to post here, then I realized I needed to start a new thread.

As far as your question goes, if they're beginning and not playing to make money, just to have fun, then help out once their hands are face up.

salim271 said:

Hahaha my friends are similar except half the time they're like WAIT 2...3...4...5... oh darn i thought i had a straight.

The first time we played the very first hand, i went all in with two of them with the nut flush. Apparently they think that you can tie on a flush, and win if you also made a pair (the board had 4 spades). I tried to explain you can't have a flush and a pair because thats at least six cards in a five card game...

it went over their heads for quite awhile, they're getting better now thankfully lol.

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I'm still trying to convince my friends that 20-25 chips (each chip being the same value) with 2/1 blinds is not legit poker. None of them understand why I shove the first good hand I get instead of just calling down with 2/1 blinds with 20 chips.

BenLZ said:

I'm still trying to convince my friends that 20-25 chips (each chip being the same value) with 2/1 blinds is not legit poker. None of them understand why I shove the first good hand I get instead of just calling down with 2/1 blinds with 20 chips.

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Mine are annoyed when i raise preflop, they want to always see a cheap flop and see if they hit anything big... its not as fun as a game as it could be but they're my buddies and i humor them lol.