Playing Live vs Online dealing with Pot Odds/Implied

I have to admit, I am a player who is strictly playing by feeling people out, and not playing the pot odds. I am pretty good at math so I would know if I am getting obvious odds, but those times when it is neck and neck (say 5 to 1 money, 4 to 1 to win), I usually just see who I am playing against and go from there. If I know for sure I hit my card and take it down, I always play if its a tough call.

Online players get to see what exactly is in the pot. When live, the chips are just in a pile. Online players can use charts and stuff they print out or on the PC about odds/implied odds.


My question is, if you are live, honestly how often do you add up your odds?

I am starting to do the 2/4 trick, but adding up the money in the pot can be a bitch. Asking the dealer each time to count the chips is something I don't really want to do.

Im definitely not a live player but if i was and had the same problem, it sounds like playing super close attention to bets and adding the pot up in your head is probably the best way to go.

that or just keep asking the dealer.

I mean I can get a rough estimate give or take 20-40 bucks in chips, but I feel if I paid much attention to that, maybe the other things I am looking at will be harder. Live play is nuts, especially at 1/2. There are more bets that don't make sense over bets that do at times.

easy enough, what i do is look for the 1st raise obv it's 2.5-3bb so since the first raise i start counting the pot in BB, because usually when someone open it's a 3bb opening, 3bet will 7-9bb so to open on next street you'll know that you have to open with about 40-60% of 15-21bb.
hope you'll understand what i mean)