Players telling you what you should have done...?

Timmah120

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Okay guys, I know there is probably a thread similar to this somewhere, but I can't find it, so...

...I was playing a $1/$2 NL-Holdem cash game a couple of weeks ago and this gentleman sat down to my left. He was there maybe twenty minutes and already coaching everyone around him about how they should be playing. Let me add that his tone of voice was very loud (not on purpose...I think that is just how he talks).

We got to a hand (details not important) and it was down to me, this gentleman, and one other fish who I put on having something, but nothing too strong. Long story short, I check-raised the fish after the flop (I was also the preflop raiser) and the gentleman next to me immediately folded. The fish called me and we got to 4th street. The card was not favorable to me and when I bet, the fish raised, so I folded.

When the fish showed his hand (2 pair on 4th street) the gentleman next to me immediately turned to me and told me that "if I check-raise, I should go all the way, no matter what." He used terms like "this is an FYI, you need to learn what to do" and such. He told me that his hand was better than the fish and demanded to know what my hand was; I very calmly told him that I do not discuss my hands with other players and that he cannot tell me how to play. This made him upset and I almost called the floor over, but didn't, and eventually he switched seats at the table.

How do you handle players like this? Sure, maybe my decision wasn't correct, maybe it was (my hand was second best, by the way, but I might have been able to push him off, who knows) but still, is it his place to tell me what to do? I made a decision based on incomplete information that I thought was best at the time, that's it.

Should I have called the floor?
 
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In usually don't give a shit to players like this one... There are some players who really wants to discuss a hand, but not talking what you should've done or not, just discussing the best moves, and it's nice. But I imagine this guy you are talking about it saying things with arrogance, like if he was the best player in the world. To these guys, don't get upset, don't answer, leave them talking alone, he will stop sometime, if not, call the floor. Be respectful in every case.
 
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you maid the right call, played right and don't let anyone tell you how to play. It was his choice to fold and he has only himself to blame.
Ant you defenatly should not go all the way if you raised.
 
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you did good bro, it happens all the time with everyone, just play your game and do your best
 
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If he had a pair post flop, he would be hard to run off. Sometimes you need to let other players do the betting, and you calling if your hand is good enough to call. As far as the guy with the big mouth, just cut his chat off, and then you won't be disturbed by what he says. GL
 
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If he had a pair post flop, he would be hard to run off. Sometimes you need to let other players do the betting, and you calling if your hand is good enough to call. As far as the guy with the big mouth, just cut his chat off, and then you won't be disturbed by what he says. GL

Cut his chat off? We were playing live...

To everyone else, thanks for the input! :)
 
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Sorry my bad not paying attention lol
 
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Sorry my bad not paying attention lol

It's all good, no worries.

I could always get my duct tape from the trunk of my car....that might help to shut him up lol. Or just tell him that folding was the right move and he should do that more often...
 
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If he had a pair post flop, he would be hard to run off. Sometimes you need to let other players do the betting, and you calling if your hand is good enough to call. As far as the guy with the big mouth, just cut his chat off, and then you won't be disturbed by what he says. GL

Right, but at the time, I wasn't sure what he had. He did seem to be playing a good portion of his hands, so I figured, why not try? If he didn't hit the flop or the turn, I probably would have gotten a fold out of him.

As a side note, I love it when I have players telling each other what I "must have had" when I win hands without a showdown. It's a reassurance that I am making some good plays.

I am still learning, too...
 
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It was very rude of him to act that way. You handled him properly.
 
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I don't think he's asking for hand advice here, folks. He's asking how to deal with the obnoxious person to his left who thinks he is God's gift to poker and wants to share his wisdom with all who come into his realm.

I think you handled him properly. Just be respectful and consistent and he should eventually shut up. Hopefully. If not, that's when you call the floor over.
 
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You have a couple choices ignore him, listen to him or get up and leave.
 
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take him out and then see if he still coaches and think he is the shit haha
but if it gets to you ignore them to put it simple. I mean if you like to talk
poker then join him in his conversation. I usually talk a little then just ignore when it starts to bug me.
 
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