Is Phil Helmuth a jerk?

ROYALKNIGHT

ROYALKNIGHT

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
May 2, 2005
Total posts
612
Chips
0
When Phil Helmuth loses a hand to a donk call or bad beat he goes balistic. Is he really a jerk or is it a good publicity act?
 
LaMinaccia

LaMinaccia

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Nov 16, 2009
Total posts
158
Chips
0
In my opinion it's a little of both, he does it for TV but he's the type of guy that would go off on a donk even if he wasn't ranked a pro.
 
NBA2K10ROCKETS

NBA2K10ROCKETS

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
May 9, 2009
Total posts
445
Chips
0
In my opinion it's a little of both, he does it for TV but he's the type of guy that would go off on a donk even if he wasn't ranked a pro.

true that. Also he probably thinks he the best thing since bread. Phil Helmuth is egotistical.
 
imtakinurcash

imtakinurcash

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Dec 30, 2009
Total posts
39
Chips
0
i dunno, i think thats wot ppl portray him as these days, so yea abita both, prob is 50 jerk and 50 does it coz thats wot his known 4......
 
tallseas

tallseas

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Apr 18, 2009
Total posts
73
Chips
0
if he is as bad as he acts I feel sorry for his family
 
L

Lonsdaleite

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 1, 2009
Total posts
112
Chips
0
My guess is that its 60% act and 40% jacka$$. He tries to put people on tilt with his antics. He tries to make people believe he is on tilt. A lot of times he just gets out played.

Phil thinks he is a better player than he is. He thinks he should be the only one allowed to make moves. If he bluffs and wins he is a genius. If someone bluffs him, their an idiot. If he plays 8 2 offsuit, it is because he is so good. When he loses to the same hand, his opponent is the worst poker player ever.
 
G

Greyshadows

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Nov 13, 2009
Total posts
191
Chips
0
Nah I kinda like phil his antics are what makes watching the wsop and other events fun, and i always gotta sympathize with a guy who gets called by people for the sole aim of getting him to tilt (Ledrer calling his all in on a PAD?? with K8 to his 88 and spiking a king on the river clearly stating he just wanted to see Phil nerdrage lol)

As for thinking he is the best player, I do admire him as being among the best tournament players of his time though his cash game skillz are not in the same league. Actually prolly after Daniel Helmuth would be my second favourite poker pro.
 
CSuave

CSuave

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Aug 15, 2006
Total posts
273
Chips
0
at the tables, yes a jerk
away from the tables he is a very good guy from all reports.
 
coolnout

coolnout

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 1, 2009
Total posts
1,750
Chips
0
i think he's just a really bad loser, hates losing, etc.

he usually apologizes for his antics after he has had some time to calm down

classic grizzle vs hellmuth "what if you're a goofball that just catches cards..."
YouTube- Phil Hellmuth and Sam Grizzle
 
MrPokerVerse

MrPokerVerse

Legend
Bronze Level
Joined
Dec 18, 2009
Total posts
2,826
Awards
2
Chips
63
He is the biggest jerk in poker, very possible by design to draw attention. Any one who treats people as he does could not be considered any other way.
 
P

paumarhas

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 8, 2008
Total posts
682
Chips
0
i think he's head ballooned up and it's affected the circulation of blood getting to his brain cells, thus making him unable to rationlize the fact that he sometimes makes bad plays and therefore loses. hahahaha
 
DaBigBoss

DaBigBoss

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
May 17, 2006
Total posts
120
Chips
0
I thought only little girls and spoiled women weree called "BRATS":eek:
 
trewtrew

trewtrew

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Dec 20, 2008
Total posts
229
Chips
0
his ego is huge so he feels anytime he loses its not because he played bad, its because his opponent did, so he tries to justify his play to everyone and talk about how his opponent just got lucky.

Having said that, all his peers say he is a baby at the table but one the the nicest guys away from it so its a hard call.
 
Poker Orifice

Poker Orifice

Fully Tilted
Platinum Level
Joined
Jan 19, 2008
Total posts
25,774
Awards
6
CA
Chips
1,023
if he is as bad as he acts I feel sorry for his family

Of course he's as bad as he acts... lol... makes for good entertainment.

I don't feel sorry for his family at all... I've heard accounts from other poker pros that Phil is an excellent & very committed father.
OR how about the >> "Honey.. he's only got mid-pair.. we're way ahead here..." OR >> "Honey.... he called my bet with T4s. Can you even believe it... frk'n T4s...what a f'n IDioT... what a f'n donkey... T4s... can you believe this stuff?!?!?!?!" ... guessing she plays a bit of a motherly role with him, lol
Poor Phil.... you gotta like him (and maybe identify with him at times I'll sadly admit)
 
5TR8 FLUSH

5TR8 FLUSH

Legend
Platinum Level
Joined
May 26, 2009
Total posts
1,711
Awards
4
US
Chips
257
I never really like Phil Hellmuth, but when he get angry at people I think its so funny because he can't stand losing. Once he learns how to lose a hand or anything he will be alright, but I think I prefer him being stupid the way he is LOL. :)
 
Passion_play

Passion_play

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Feb 19, 2007
Total posts
119
Chips
0
Hey RK..
Not sure if he was like that before TV.. if so then, that is what he uses for one of his intimidation tactics to try and control a table... May have worked for awhile but everyone knows and he hasnt changed.
His Loss!! LOL
 
Ice Wolf

Ice Wolf

Legend
Bronze Level
Joined
Aug 9, 2008
Total posts
1,008
Awards
1
Chips
0
The video is halarious I didnt get to see much of the world series this year so I hadnt seen this but I did catch the one where Phil buys drinks for the guys friends and has a side bet on whos hand is better that was pretty funny and nice of Phil. But personally I still cant stand the guy.
 
blackmax

blackmax

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Mar 16, 2009
Total posts
163
Chips
0
definetly both...i mean they guy knows in poker your going to get a donk or 2 he's just letting them know it everytime he has a chance!As far as bad beats go hell sometimes i get a lil pissed....we all do the man is a competitor
 
nc_royals

nc_royals

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Total posts
701
Chips
0
Hey RK..
Not sure if he was like that before TV..

I was reading Mike Matusow's book "Check Raising the Devil" and he mentioned Phil a few times and some of his blow-ups. This was Pre- the poker boom. But he also goes onto say what a good person he is as well.
 
R

Ranny

Legend
Bronze Level
Joined
Sep 16, 2007
Total posts
1,349
Awards
5
Chips
4
There are a lot of very good pro players who can't get sponsorship because nowadays you have to be a fairly good player and a celebrity to boot.

So all the top tv pros have an act and thats hellmuths.

Tv programs like HSP ans PAD don't just want good players they want players that make good entertainment.

Ask this question, who would you want to play against, hellmuth or ivey?
 
D

DietDave

Rising Star
Silver Level
Joined
Mar 16, 2009
Total posts
20
Chips
0
He is a jerk, but like people say - away from the table I'm sure he's not as much of a jerk. He might even be a nice guy. One thing's for sure - acting like a jerk at the table has helped earned him extra millions.
 
J

JEP712

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Nov 29, 2009
Total posts
538
Chips
0
Phil gets out of line sometimes, but I believe he still have full control of his action. I don't know him personally, so I won't judge his "real" personality, but I know for sure that he's an excellent poker player.
 
imtakinurcash

imtakinurcash

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Dec 30, 2009
Total posts
39
Chips
0
That vid of him n sam grizzle is funny as, phil's just gettin it dished to him.... lmao
 
Top