Originally Posted by zachvac
Rake is brutal. I have lost $390 to rake according to poker tracker, over 37k hands. And I'm playing at the lower limits. So if in a rakeless game, I was a winner winning $350 over that time frame, I would currently be an online loser.
The rake amount that online poker rooms make is almost obscene.
Let's say the average casino has 20 tables. Most run 24 hours a day but late nites/early AM's are usually very sparse, but go with 20. Optimum hands per hour is about 20. If the tables operated full (180-200 players), that's 400 hands per hour, with a rake from most hands (except the no flop/no drop hands).
It's 9:30am here, and Stars has 14,300 tables active (95,300 players). Let's say only 7,000 tables are 'cash play', the rest being somewhat inactive or dedicated to non-rake freerolls
. Online they get 60 hands per hour. That's 420,000 hands per hour and let's round down to 400,000 for easy math.
An online room like Stars is raking 1,000 TIMES the rake of a BnM casino PER HOUR. You tell me who is making the money and that rake doesn't figure in. I'm with you, Zachvac.