Painful

U

unstoppable4

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 20, 2008
Total posts
245
Chips
0
Second hand of a $1.10 tournament I am dealt pocket threes. Limped in and we are three handed to the flop. The flop comes 3 4 5, the guy bets 140, I raise to 280, third guy folds, First player goes all in, I call, he shows A 10, turns a King, rivers a two. That sucked. Should I have played differently or is this just a bad beat?
 
L

light65536

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Aug 7, 2007
Total posts
166
Chips
0
Oops misread it. You need to be especially careful of playing low pocket pairs with straight possibilities (high congruent board texture) and be willing to accept such things when they happen. Often you'll be up against limped aces and possibly even an a-2 or over pairs like 5-6. Your best opponents will be holding something like A-5 but even that has outs or maybe 2 pair such as 4-5. I'm not saying you played poorly but on a such a flop a set is high risk. I think the odds are strongly in your favor because he only had 4 outs or 8% or the 2 aces which is 1 of 3 * 1 of 2 (very slim) but he could have made it on the flop too. Also almost any set will beat you. I think you had the odds strongly in your favor but again good chance someone with something like A-5 is always going to call because they have TPTK, the ace, and the ability to hit the wheel. Just checked it: in this case you were 85% favorite so it was a good play -- in a cash game it might be a good play but someone could have just flopped an A-2 or limped with 6-7. The other way to play is to try t play a smaller pot and get away from it but then you'll not make anything and why not fold. The guy with the A-10 was probably overestimating his chances of winning but he felt he had the ace and the wheel possibility and it was a big pot if he won it.
 
Last edited:
Dwilius

Dwilius

CardsChat Regular
Silver Level
Joined
May 5, 2008
Total posts
7,584
Awards
34
Chips
0
Usually I'd like to see the turn, call if I think I'm behind, raise if ahead. On a limp flop you could already be behind, but I'd doubt it. A2 might bet big but so early its likely something stupid (like AT) Decision as to whether you want to guard your tourn life or take an excellent chance to double up.
 
smd173

smd173

Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Joined
Apr 10, 2005
Total posts
1,520
Chips
0
It's a bad beat in a $1.10 tourney. Forget about it and move on.
 
Dwilius

Dwilius

CardsChat Regular
Silver Level
Joined
May 5, 2008
Total posts
7,584
Awards
34
Chips
0
"omg i have 4th best high card and a gutshot to the ass end of a straight"
 
SavagePenguin

SavagePenguin

Put the win in penguin
Bronze Level
Joined
Jul 10, 2007
Total posts
7,594
Awards
1
Chips
3
If this was a higher limit game I might suggest folding. But against in a $1.10 tournament it's an insta-call. People are going to be shoving with all kinds of crud.

Flopping a set and getting all of your chips in is why you played 3/3 to begin with.

You were better than 80% to win. While surviving is an important factor in tournaments, 80% with the chance to be the chip leader is too juicy to pass up.
 
zachvac

zachvac

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 14, 2007
Total posts
7,832
Chips
0
When you flop a set at these stakes, just get it in. Even against good players at higher stakes you're rarely folding a set unless you're extremely deep. Just get the money in, you did, and you had the best hand. He sucked out. It happens, it's poker. Keep doing this and you'll make money in the long run.
 
D

Dayne G.

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
May 30, 2008
Total posts
189
Chips
0
When you flop a set at these stakes, just get it in. Even against good players at higher stakes you're rarely folding a set unless you're extremely deep. Just get the money in, you did, and you had the best hand. He sucked out. It happens, it's poker. Keep doing this and you'll make money in the long run.

100% true! Anyone suggesting a fold here is crazy! Why play these hands if you're going to fear the boogey man when you hit?

As Zach said, very rare situations will make you laydown.
 
Huck45

Huck45

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Apr 18, 2008
Total posts
91
Chips
0
Hey, yep get your money in with a flopped set. Like the previous post says You're 80% to win. I would have played it the same way. In fact, I did today and it. I went from chip leader to short stack:( but I got my money in with the best hand. SHort term I was pissed, but I know long term I will make money with similiar play.
I had Q-Q on a board Q-9-10, I led out with a pot sized bet , he pushed AI and showed a set of tens. His set turned into quads on the river.
 

Attachments

  • 2nd Last Hand.jpg
    2nd Last Hand.jpg
    81.5 KB · Views: 1
Top