Omaha H/L question

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Hello All,
If I have what I believe to be the winning low hand is it improper to raise...I did the other day and someone called me an idiot. It splits the pot but maybe it's not good poker etiquette any help?:confused:
 
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It all really depends how many people are in the hand and the strength of there hands. If its only 2 of you you might want to raise to try to push him off his high hand. And if you got the nut low in a multiway pot than you wanna raise too try to just add more money into the pot to make it that you and the high hand make more money from the other callers, but you dont want to push the other players out as well. But it is more dangerous to raise when u think u have the best low because most people will be only playing A2's and so you might have 2nd best low.
 
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Thanks for your help Ld. I did have the nut low and that's why I was surprised when he said that. There were three of us involved in the hand
 
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Hey Dawg! :)

That guy was just angry that he got quartered.

Getting quartered with low nut happens quite often.

With nut low one should either call in a multiway pot, or raise.

You did just fine. Ignore the stupid remark.



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Hello All,
If I have what I believe to be the winning low hand is it improper to raise...I did the other day and someone called me an idiot. It splits the pot but maybe it's not good poker etiquette any help?:confused:

It's not at all bad etiquette. Whether or not it's "improper" in the sense that it's a bad play really depends. Yes it is a really bad play when you have no legitimate high and wind up getting quartered. But it can be a really good play in other spots -- i.e., you suspect someone is weak on the high side with no low or a worse low and you do it as a semi-bluff, or in a multi-way pot where you think the other players in the pot just have high hands.

I agree with the earlier poster who said it just sounds like sour grapes from someone who got quartered.
 
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If there is only 3 left with 1 high and you share the nut low every $1 you bet you only get $.75 back. So the more you bet the more you lose. That negates all the profit that was in the pot left by all the others and the blinds.
The best time when it works is when you have the nut low and the straight A-5. But to continually raise when you share the pot is not good money management. Here you should be containing the pot.
 
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Personally thats the easiest way to win
is nut low with a multiway pot
if i have the nut low and there is 3 or more in the pot i push
u know at least 1 person will call and the rest is dead money
u split between u and the high. Forget etiquette, poker is
about making money not about making friends, if they want
friends tell them to go play golf
 
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Can betting, raising, folding ever be improper etiquette?
Whether it is right or wrong, smart or stupid ...
that's a different question.
But I don't see how it can ever be improper.
If so, there would never be any bluffs!
 
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I don't like to play for just low... I know that u can win 50% of the pot but it can end up winning only 25% (opponent has same low + he got the high too)
I only play for high and ofc scoop. Lets say that flop is 346 two spades and u have As 2s Xx Xx in ure hand so id definitely push everyone all in coz you usually end up winning 50% or 100%.
But betting just for low w/o no hi draws is dumb.
 
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If I had what i thought would be the winning low hand I would do the same thing. If you raised you may knock of the other players and win the pot, if they don't fold at least you may get a split, and get something out of it.
 
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Hey all thanks for the feedback. I'm new to this site but can already tell I will enjoy. The advice/information you give is invaluable unless you count what we win at the tables because of it. Thanks again and will be back often.
 
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Hello All,
If I have what I believe to be the winning low hand is it improper to raise...I did the other day and someone called me an idiot. It splits the pot but maybe it's not good poker etiquette any help?:confused:

It only splits the pot if he calls you. Raise the hell out of a nut low, if your opponent hasn't got a decent high they will fold on a scary board (i.e. top pair on a flushed board). You can get quartered of course, but all the whole-pot scoops will easily make up for that.

Simple rule of thumb is that if a player calls you an idiot, they usually are one.
 
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If you believe the pot will split, one hi, one low, and it is a ring game, then raising will only cost you money. As the pots get bigger, the rake gets bigger!

If it is a tourney style game, then raising in a split pot won't cost you anything except when you get quartered.

example; you have nut low, another has nut low, a 3rd player has the hi

board shows 679T8 rainbow and they came in that order.

Hi has JQ8x, you and another have A2. The high hand has had the nuts since the turn, and only got called. He figures you both for low hands since you did not raise early (most likely). He is pushing, you are being dragged. When the low hits, highs nut hi got better, and of course he is raising, as there will always be a hi hand in Omaha8, and he has the nuts, if either low now raises, the other low will call, and the hi will continue to raise, etc etc till something maxes.

For simplicity use $100 bets.

For every $100 you put in at this point, if you get quartered, you will only get $75 of it back.

The sole hi hand will get $150 for his $100 in a three way split pot where he is the only hi.

That is tourney style, no rake there.

In a ring game take out a 5%-10% rake (depending on location) and your $75 turns into $67.50 - $71.50 (again depending on location).

Moral of this is to learn pot control.
 
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Alot of people will complain about raising because of the rake thats involved, especially if its gonna be a split pot. However there was no real way for your opponents to see what you had until after the showdown so their comments are absolutely pointless. For all they knew prior to showdown you had the nut high and the nut low.........
 
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The only time I can think of that being a waste of time is if it's you and one other person, and he obviously has the hi hand. Then you're just gonna split anyways. But if 3+ people are in the hand, then heck yeah get more money in.
 
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